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Pioneer DVR-1910LS and Clonecd problems..

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#1
ok had the new pioneer DVR-1910LS installed and is working fine except for one thing.

I made a 1:1 image of Strange Wilderness with Clonecd 5.3.1.0 and intend to burn it with Clonecd but I get a message asking me if I want to try Overburning. Why is this if I am using a Verb DL disc? It has plenty of space as it is a blank DL disc.

What settings do I need to change to fix this.


I replaced my old Pioneer DVR-108 because it could no longer burn DL discs and now this problem.

This is the message I received.....IMAGE doesn't fit on destination disc!
Space available: 7859 Mbyte (126:14:33 Min:Sec:Fra)
Space required: 4482 Mbyte (254:1:29 Min:Sec:Fra)
Please select how to procede

Try to Overburn
Write until the end of the media is reached


What can I do to fix this?
I am also using the latest AnyDvd 6.4.2.6
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#2
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Space required: 4482 Mbyte (254:1:29 Min:Sec:Fra)


Shouldn't that fit onto an SL disc?


#3
yes but the output file from Clonecd after it i done ripping is 7.67gb which is what I want to burn onto the +R DL disc but it's acting like the DL disc is a regular +R disc.I want to burn a 1:1 clone of the movie to retain everything from the original.
#4
Have you tried to just rip it to your HDD with AnyDVD and then burn with Imgburn?


#5
Originally posted by LOCOENG:
Have you tried to just rip it to your HDD with AnyDVD and then burn with Imgburn?
well I know that will work but the reason I wanted to burn with Clonecd was to retail the original Layer Break which no other program can do.

I was thinking of something that I'm not sure will work.I was thinking of getting the Layer Break info from Clonecd and inserting that in IMGBURN in the section where it asks you if you want IMGBURN to calculate optimal Layer Break of if you want to enter the numbers manually.I wonder if that would work as another solution to retaining the original Layer Break from the movie.
#6
Agree with Loco, Anydvd and Imgburn great combo. IMHO Imgburn best burning engine out there, especially for dl discs.

And a little help


http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1777

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


#7
yes but will it retain the original lyer break is what I want to know because if it doesn't the movie will more than likely freeze for a couple of seconds or skip.
#8
Originally posted by poolpro:
Originally posted by LOCOENG:
Have you tried to just rip it to your HDD with AnyDVD and then burn with Imgburn?
well I know that will work but the reason I wanted to burn with Clonecd was to retail the original Layer Break which no other program can do.

I was thinking of something that I'm not sure will work.I was thinking of getting the Layer Break info from Clonecd and inserting that in IMGBURN in the section where it asks you if you want IMGBURN to calculate optimal Layer Break of if you want to enter the numbers manually.I wonder if that would work as another solution to retaining the original Layer Break from the movie.

Are you using cloneCD ? that's for CDs. CloneDVD is for DVDs

Perhaps that is your problem.

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


#9
Originally posted by poolpro:
yes but will it retain the original lyer break is what I want to know because if it doesn't the movie will more than likely freeze for a couple of seconds or skip.

The guide in Imgburn will help you creat the optimum layer break.

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


#10
no I've used Clonecd for DVD's as well and have never had problems like this before.
#11
dls can be tricky animals

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


#12
thanks Iluvendo I'm trying the method you suggested.Ripping right now.Hopefully this works out as I have already wasted plenty DL discs on both my old drive and now this new drive.
#13
You are welcome
BTW where are you verbs made ?
MIS made in Singapore (I hope - the good stuff)
MII made in India ( the iffy stuff)

to identify discs use dvd identifier


http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


#14
Singapore .Only the best will do for me.

I also have some Sony's that code out as Ritek. My first choice is always Verb.
#15
JoeRyan, the disc guru here at aD told me the Riteks dl +R 2.4x were ok

"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


#16
JoeRyan is still around...haven't seen him in a long while.

@poolpro

If you rip the disc with Imgburn in read mode using AnyDVD in the background to create an ISO the original layer break should be retained. Then you simply choose the .MDS to burn from as it contains the layer break info.


#17
cool LOCOENG. I saved the log ILUVENDO and this is what I got.Let me know what you think.I haven't checked the disc out yet so hopefully it turned out ok.

I 00:52:04 ImgBurn Version 2.4.1.0 started!
I 00:52:04 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 1)
I 00:52:04 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,492 KB - Available: 1,726,552 KB
I 00:52:04 Initialising SPTI...
I 00:52:04 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 00:52:04 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 00:53:00 Operation Started!
I 00:53:00 Source File: C:\Documents and Settings\Vince\My Documents\Strange Wilderness\STRANGE_WILDERNESS.MDS
I 00:53:00 Source File Sectors: 4,024,096 (MODE1/2048)
I 00:53:00 Source File Size: 8,241,348,608 bytes
I 00:53:00 Source File Volume Identifier: STRANGE_WILDERNESS
I 00:53:00 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 38B70562003D6712
I 00:53:00 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.4.1.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 00:53:00 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 00:53:00 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 00:53:00 Destination Device: [1:0:0] PIONEER DVR-113NP 1.01 (D:) (ATA)
I 00:53:00 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 4x)
I 00:53:00 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 00:53:00 Write Mode: DVD
I 00:53:00 Write Type: DAO
I 00:53:00 Write Speed: 2.4x
I 00:53:00 Link Size: Auto
I 00:53:00 Test Mode: No
I 00:53:00 OPC: Yes
I 00:53:00 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 00:53:35 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,012,048
I 00:53:35 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 00:53:40 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 00:53:40 Writing LeadIn...
I 00:53:45 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4024095)
I 00:53:45 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4024095)
I 00:53:45 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2012047)
I 01:06:23 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2012048 - 4024095)
I 01:19:06 Synchronising Cache...
W 01:19:45 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0/3) - Power Calibration Area Error
W 01:19:53 Synchronise Cache Failed! - Reason: Power Calibration Area Error
W 01:19:53 Retrying (1 of 3)...
I 01:19:54 Closing Track...
I 01:19:55 Finalising Disc...
W 01:20:27 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0%, 0/3) - Power Calibration Area Error
W 01:20:27 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Power Calibration Area Error
W 01:20:27 Retrying (1 of 3)...
W 01:20:56 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0%, 0/3) - Power Calibration Area Error
W 01:20:56 Retry Failed - Reason: Power Calibration Area Error
W 01:20:56 Retrying (2 of 3)...
I 01:21:51 Exporting Graph Data...
I 01:21:51 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Vince\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_DVR-113NP_1.01_FRIDAY-MAY-23-2008_12-53_AM_RITEK-D01-01_2.4x.ibg
I 01:21:51 Export Successfully Completed!
I 01:21:51 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:28:47
I 01:21:51 Average Write Rate: 5,291 KB/s (3.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,566 KB/s (4.0x)
#18
Quote:
I 00:53:00 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 4x)
The reason you are wasting discs is because of the discs you are using. Verbatim MIS only for DL projects.

Quote:
I 00:53:00 Write Speed: 2.4x
4X is the only speed you can select for this disc as determined by your drive/firmware/media....see above at supported speeds.

Quote:
I 00:53:00 Test Mode: No
If you want to avoid a coaster in the future you can enable test mode and all the steps will be taken except burning to the disc.

Quote:
PIONEER DVR-113NP 1.01
This is an OEM drive right? Have you checked for a firmware update?


#19
yeah I checked the firmware and updated to the newest version today which is 1.01.

I ran out of the Verb already from my old drive.I've never had problems with these discs which are Sony's which code out as Ritek.
#20
If they work they work, if they don't they don't. Tried the disc in your standalone yet?


#21
yeah worked great.I always use them and only use Verb's for a top of the line movie.
#22
Congrats...happy burning.


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