Hi to all!

My laptop hatdrive, which started life almost 2 years ago, has started to appear heavily fragmented when i analyze it using diskeeper, and its not just a few bits, but its nearly the entire drive that appears to be fragmented. This is starting to frustrate me, because i have to fragment it every day now, becouse it shows up to be heavily fragmented all the time. Even after, like ten minutes, i analyze the drive again, and there are think strands of red sitting there in the results window, and im wondering if theres anyway to stop it from fragmenting heavily all the time. sorry if this might be confusing, but i cant think of anyother way of putting it.

It shouldn't happen by itself. It may be full up, in case you won't be able to defrag it very well in the first place. Try using AusLogics disk defragmenter and see what results that gives you - remember to check the log at the end to see if any files couldn't be defragmented due to lack of free space.

I downloaded the Auslogics DDifrag and after defragging it showed that it did defrag all 351 fragmented files, but these files are what my other defraggers defrag, but its like they dont get defragged, by next reboot they have been fragmented again. And even after defragging, the same files i have noticed, start to appear bak on the defrag result lists. :S dont no if this is down to HD failier or something like that?

That's odd, if they're definitely defragmented but become fragmented by reboot, your HDD is either very very full, or there's something wrong...

The HD itself is 60GB, but ive only used 7GB of it

That should be fine then, which files keep becoming fragmented? Could you copy the log of the defrag and post it here?

Oh christe. it looks like the defrag results got overiten, cuz i did secound defrag, and i now cannot find it in the firefox history. erm. i'll do another defrag tomorrow, and see if the files show up on the results.

Ok sure.

Hi, sorry about the long wait. just done another defrag and found 61 fragmented files, here is the long list of the fragmented files, but its the locations map and the status though: (The other defrag i did yesturday desplayed that it was files in the main WINDOWS folder and in other places aswell)

C:\Documents and Settings\David\Application Data\Auslogics\Disk Defrag\Reports\C_Disk_Defrag_Report.html 2 692 / 700 13.69 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\bookmarkbackups\bookmarks-2008-09-15.json 3 51 / 55 14.80 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\localstore.rdf 2 55 / 57 7.27 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\places.sqlite 8 700 / 747 460.00 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\prefs.js 2 61 / 63 4.02 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\IconCache.db 22 183917 / 185324 11.66 MB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\02A96A39d01 2 99 / 105 23.94 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\0748C514d01 2 163 / 168 19.28 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\07EB2535d01 2 461 / 466 18.53 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\0966A9B5d01 2 747 / 753 21.10 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\139C6BE3d01 2 753 / 761 31.50 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\13FF5EE3d01 2 761 / 767 23.09 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\16A28110d01 2 767 / 774 24.71 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\221316AFd01 2 774 / 782 30.02 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\247BF12Fd01 2 782 / 789 26.41 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\26C8B2C3d01 2 789 / 799 38.64 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\2A88B61Fd01 2 4284 / 4292 28.66 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\3B37C6E9d01 2 2022 / 2029 24.21 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\3EA4B9EAd01 2 4881 / 4889 28.58 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\40A99465d01 2 603 / 608 16.53 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\48FDEE4Fd01 2 1303 / 1309 23.31 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\4FEBBEF0d01 2 654 / 659 18.74 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\54BF3792d01 2 684 / 689 17.73 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\61C6E694d01 2 4513 / 4520 26.57 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\63C18B5Cd01 2 8089 / 8099 39.60 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\64413F0Ed01 3 18828 / 18848 77.51 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\71194BAEd01 3 19402 / 19419 67.24 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\7E9A8D03d01 2 1643 / 1649 22.14 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\85721F67d01 2 5073 / 5080 27.08 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\85F86300d01 2 19875 / 19891 61.59 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\86695775d01 2 955 / 960 16.18 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\8B365EBFd01 2 1912 / 1918 23.94 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\96495610d01 3 20524 / 20540 61.59 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\9BB9530Dd01 2 2799 / 2805 20.03 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\A834A3C9d01 2 3902 / 3908 23.55 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\AA1A99D4d01 3 22719 / 22737 69.10 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\B996604Ad01 2 4019 / 4025 23.46 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\BD20B65Ed01 2 9811 / 9819 30.98 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\C4D3D710d01 3 24759 / 24775 60.76 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\C5B566CBd01 3 13022 / 13035 51.78 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\D188814Cd01 2 2924 / 2929 16.24 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\E79C162Fd01 2 4031 / 4037 22.20 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\EC86B3B1d01 2 4205 / 4211 21.85 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\F3486D6Ed01 2 3401 / 3406 18.25 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\_CACHE_001_ 15 27185 / 27366 722.92 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\_CACHE_002_ 19 94278 / 94531 1.009.64 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\_CACHE_003_ 12 96697 / 97005 1.20 MB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\_CACHE_MAP_ 2 5394 / 5403 32.27 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\Cache\ 2 63 / 65 0 bytes OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\sh6o1hf6.default\urlclassifier3.sqlite 67 1075267 / 1081584 50.41 MB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat 2 6411 / 6419 32.00 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\David\ntuser.dat.LOG 36 27366 / 27404 1.00 KB OK
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.LOG 2 68 / 70 1.00 KB OK
C:\System Volume Information\_restore{99449948-6F7B-4D19-B380-75C3FDE1E3B1}\RP88\change.log 2 10013 / 10021 17.31 KB OK
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\default.LOG 3 205 / 209 1.00 KB OK
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SAM.LOG 3 236 / 239 1.00 KB OK
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SECURITY.LOG 3 5042 / 5048 1.00 KB OK
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system.LOG 28 352374 / 353001 1.00 KB OK
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LogFiles\WUDF\WUDFTrace.etl 2 449 / 451 8.00 KB OK
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Logs\wbemess.log 3 554 / 557 10.32 KB OK
C:\WINDOWS\WindowsUpdate.log

Almost all temporary files, almost all of those relating to firefox, I wouldn't worry about those too much. Clear your temporary files in both your web browsers.

Hmmm.. yeah, i think that all the firefox stuff is to blame. and if i add stuff to the hd from a cd or the internet, they get fragmented and show up on the auslogics defrager, so i have to defrag. i have a western digital external FAT32 hd, and that hardley ever gets fragmented, maybe the odd 1 or 2 files now and then, but i dunno if its down to the age of the drive? :S

I've never seen drives randomly fragment due to old age...

Hmm... dunno then. but im now aware that when i open firefox, the cache files and other components get fragmented straight away, and they show up on the Auslogic defragger. dunno if its the same for other files, but i now know that its just firefox 3 r2 that its files get fragmented after openning.