According to the Xbox 360 DVD Drive Database, the new 'Jasper' Xbox 360s have begun shipping as of August in the UK and in the US. The 'Jasper' hardware revision is the shrinking of the GPU from a 90nm chip to a 65nm chip which the company hopes will keep the system cooler and significantly reduce the now infamous 'red ring of death', the sign that your 360 needs to be replaced. Overall, ...
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#1
30 Sep 2008 @ 13:21
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I thought it was the gpu that needed a shrink to 65nm.
#2
30 Sep 2008 @ 13:34
Originally posted by diabolic:Correct. I have corrected the typo, thanks.
I thought it was the gpu that needed a shrink to 65nm.
#3
30 Sep 2008 @ 14:58
This is long overdue but at least they finally did something. We just have to wait and see how many complaints we have with the new consoles, hopefully none... This may serve to help Microsoft sell more consoles as they have already seen boost in sales recently with the drop in console prices.
Honestly I think Sony is going to have to do something as I expect the sales to continue to grow especially with Fable 2 and GOW2 about to drop very soon. Smart marketing strategy.
Wonder if the newer units will be any quieter???
Honestly I think Sony is going to have to do something as I expect the sales to continue to grow especially with Fable 2 and GOW2 about to drop very soon. Smart marketing strategy.
Wonder if the newer units will be any quieter???
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 30 Sep 2008 @ 14:59
#4
30 Sep 2008 @ 23:55
I think Sonys strategy involves quality instead of quanity. Why drop price on the only next gen console that offers ALL of the next gen features within the markets failure rate standards. To drop price just because your competitor is struggling to provide a quality machine that is worth a next gen price just undercuts the basic fact that a PS3 is capable of soo much more than the 360 in every department relevant to the current console generation.
And as far as GOW (which looks cool) and fable 2, The ps3 has a stronger line up this holiday hands down with KZ2, RFOM2, and LBP alone.
And as far as GOW (which looks cool) and fable 2, The ps3 has a stronger line up this holiday hands down with KZ2, RFOM2, and LBP alone.
#5
01 Oct 2008 @ 0:32
Jasper for the Elite too?
Has anyone reported problems about the Elite, I thought it was only the 20GB model that had issues. I've went through 2 of them already.
@ Hunt720 Yes the PS3 has a Blu-Ray drive and some other features, currently I can't say which one has the better graphics, because my PS3 is running on HDMI and my xbox is on Component. PS3 seems to be a very sturdy machine, but the quality of the games are the pits.
For anyone to compare Resistance FoM to Gears of War is nuts, Resistance was a horrible game, Haze is a horrible game, the only exclusive which looked good is MGS4. So maybe they should spend more time on the quality of the games.
And both systems should get some more 2 or 4 person games and I don't mean online!
Has anyone reported problems about the Elite, I thought it was only the 20GB model that had issues. I've went through 2 of them already.
@ Hunt720 Yes the PS3 has a Blu-Ray drive and some other features, currently I can't say which one has the better graphics, because my PS3 is running on HDMI and my xbox is on Component. PS3 seems to be a very sturdy machine, but the quality of the games are the pits.
For anyone to compare Resistance FoM to Gears of War is nuts, Resistance was a horrible game, Haze is a horrible game, the only exclusive which looked good is MGS4. So maybe they should spend more time on the quality of the games.
And both systems should get some more 2 or 4 person games and I don't mean online!
#6
01 Oct 2008 @ 1:00
Originally posted by chubbyInc:Xbox looks real nice on a PC Monitor, you should try it. if you dont share your box that is. The smaller GPU isn't going to do much. with all that room in the case u'd think they would ad a internal blower. that would reduce heat greatly. the other thing the could do is separate the heat pipes, and the heat plates. i have had mine since launch i noticed a lot of bad case designing. 2 years ago i modded mine. talismoon fan, Crystal blue case. no problems.
Jasper for the Elite too?
Has anyone reported problems about the Elite, I thought it was only the 20GB model that had issues. I've went through 2 of them already.
@ Hunt720 Yes the PS3 has a Blu-Ray drive and some other features, currently I can't say which one has the better graphics, because my PS3 is running on HDMI and my xbox is on Component. PS3 seems to be a very sturdy machine, but the quality of the games are the pits.
For anyone to compare Resistance FoM to Gears of War is nuts, Resistance was a horrible game, Haze is a horrible game, the only exclusive which looked good is MGS4. So maybe they should spend more time on the quality of the games.
And both systems should get some more 2 or 4 person games and I don't mean online!
#7
01 Oct 2008 @ 1:09
DoomLight
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Originally posted by Hunt720:those games suck are you crazy? Killzone2 and Resitance are nothing compared to the killer line up of Microsoft. and im not even a fan boy. but realistically man. Little Big Planet looks lame and might be fun if ur an ADHD child with the attention span of a gnat.
I think Sonys strategy involves quality instead of quanity. Why drop price on the only next gen console that offers ALL of the next gen features within the markets failure rate standards. To drop price just because your competitor is struggling to provide a quality machine that is worth a next gen price just undercuts the basic fact that a PS3 is capable of soo much more than the 360 in every department relevant to the current console generation.
And as far as GOW (which looks cool) and fable 2, The ps3 has a stronger line up this holiday hands down with KZ2, RFOM2, and LBP alone.
sony must of paid you to say that. cause its so false. maybe next year sony might have enough 3rd party support to get out some good software. but as of this holiday season. its just not a posibility.
#8
01 Oct 2008 @ 1:09
I tried fan mods with my first Xbox, don't recommend anyone do that if they are worried about RLOD probably won't get a replacement. I retired my LCD monitor about a year ago, Use my Samsung 52" LCD for PC and Gaming. Got a VGA Port on the TV, so considering I don't have HDMI on my Xbox I'll try the VGA cable. 3 HDMI ports are taken up already anyways by the PC, PS3 and DVD player. :)
#9
01 Oct 2008 @ 1:33
Originally posted by Hunt720:First....you have got to be kidding me with the quality line. That's a joke right. I would be better just to admitt though both systems have some great exclusives we all know were the majority of them are. If i had a dollar for every person who had said they own both the ps3 and xbox360 and play the xbox360 more i would be as rich man.
I think Sonys strategy involves quality instead of quanity. Why drop price on the only next gen console that offers ALL of the next gen features within the markets failure rate standards. To drop price just because your competitor is struggling to provide a quality machine that is worth a next gen price just undercuts the basic fact that a PS3 is capable of soo much more than the 360 in every department relevant to the current console generation.
And as far as GOW (which looks cool) and fable 2, The ps3 has a stronger line up this holiday hands down with KZ2, RFOM2, and LBP alone.
Second....Why drop the price??? Who do you mean Nintendo??? B/c they are the only other company that can afford to drop the price of their console if they choose to and i dont see it happening while Wii's sell like hotcakes. Sony invest a lot of money into each console with production cost. They dont drop the price b.c they honesty can not afford to. Blueray and cell and expensive.
Third....The PS3 may be capable of who knows what but currently is it doing anything that make it a better than the xbox360. Surely not graphics are they are pretty much even... oh yeah... wait. The PS3 is the thing most people use just to watch Blueray movies. Thats sad....But then the online experience did make me laugh for the week i had his PS3. So i guess it did serve some entertainment.
Last....as far as the lineup of games we will have to wait and see but i do remind you that besides MGS4 sony hasnot had too many games with great reviews lately. Haze was so hyped and fell flat on its face.
#10
01 Oct 2008 @ 10:47
gnovak1
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My brother is a PS3 fanboy, has been all his life. He now owns both the PS3 and the XBOX 360.
He says how surprised he is how much better the graphics are on the 360 as compared to the PS3. He admits the 360 games look better and the 360 has better quality games including Halo and Gears of War.
Looks like the my bro is turning into a 360 fanboy now !!
He says how surprised he is how much better the graphics are on the 360 as compared to the PS3. He admits the 360 games look better and the 360 has better quality games including Halo and Gears of War.
Looks like the my bro is turning into a 360 fanboy now !!
#11
01 Oct 2008 @ 13:25
lxfactor
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Originally posted by gnovak1:i dont think anyone cares.. its preference.. they are both good consoles..
My brother is a PS3 fanboy, has been all his life. He now owns both the PS3 and the XBOX 360.
He says how surprised he is how much better the graphics are on the 360 as compared to the PS3. He admits the 360 games look better and the 360 has better quality games including Halo and Gears of War.
Looks like the my bro is turning into a 360 fanboy now !!
#12
01 Oct 2008 @ 17:19
warriorp
Junior Member
Quote:lol!Originally posted by gnovak1:i dont think anyone cares.. its preference.. they are both good consoles..
My brother is a PS3 fanboy, has been all his life. He now owns both the PS3 and the XBOX 360.
He says how surprised he is how much better the graphics are on the 360 as compared to the PS3. He admits the 360 games look better and the 360 has better quality games including Halo and Gears of War.
Looks like the my bro is turning into a 360 fanboy now !!
#13
01 Oct 2008 @ 18:55
i think that the ps3 has more potential than the x360 to be a very good console, but i do agree the 360 now has a huge game selection that blows the ps3 out of the water and right now that makes it a better console. i have a ps3 but i want to get 360. i am just afraid that ill play it for a week then ill get the red lights and be out of the system for a few weeks. ill probably end up waiting till the eliminate that problem before i get one.
#14
01 Oct 2008 @ 19:25
What is up with you people and your RROD Phobia? Your missing out on some great games and if it does get RROD theres warranty for 3 years.
#15
01 Oct 2008 @ 22:37
Originally posted by Hunt720:Dude wrong place for this, and look at the snowball effect it started. Don't feed the fanboys, whether they're Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo.
I think Sonys strategy involves quality instead of quanity. Why drop price on the only next gen console that offers ALL of the next gen features within the markets failure rate standards. To drop price just because your competitor is struggling to provide a quality machine that is worth a next gen price just undercuts the basic fact that a PS3 is capable of soo much more than the 360 in every department relevant to the current console generation.
And as far as GOW (which looks cool) and fable 2, The ps3 has a stronger line up this holiday hands down with KZ2, RFOM2, and LBP alone.
I'm sure I'm not the only one tired of sifting through comments to find something interesting and actually pertaining to the articles.
Think of it this way, if what people have or are doing doesn't effect you in any way why must we constantly start crap with each other. Everything has goods and bads, if you have what you want stop pestering your neighbors.
I'm not aiming this specifically at you Hunt but towards this problem in general.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 01 Oct 2008 @ 22:39
#16
01 Oct 2008 @ 22:47
Quote:True they are both good consoles and its is preference...It is also most peoples preference to play the xbox360 more often than their PS3 and if it doesnot interest you then dont post.Originally posted by gnovak1:i dont think anyone cares.. its preference.. they are both good consoles..
My brother is a PS3 fanboy, has been all his life. He now owns both the PS3 and the XBOX 360.
He says how surprised he is how much better the graphics are on the 360 as compared to the PS3. He admits the 360 games look better and the 360 has better quality games including Halo and Gears of War.
Looks like the my bro is turning into a 360 fanboy now !!
#17
01 Oct 2008 @ 23:24
Originally posted by DoomLight:Has anyone ever bothered quoting DoomLight's BS? "im not a fanboy" is false. They all suck? Really? If you hate Sony, you don't have a PS3, and have at most, only watched videos of the games that suck. Maybe you should play them, then make an inference.
those games suck are you crazy? Killzone2 and Resitance are nothing compared to the killer line up of Microsoft. and im not even a fan boy. but realistically man. Little Big Planet looks lame and might be fun if ur an ADHD child with the attention span of a gnat.
sony must of paid you to say that. cause its so false. maybe next year sony might have enough 3rd party support to get out some good software. but as of this holiday season. its just not a posibility.
Oh and as soon as the 360 60GB drops to $200 CDN, I'm picking one up with VGA cables. It can do 1024x768, right? Cause I don't want to have to see stretched video on my monitor.
#18
02 Oct 2008 @ 0:33
Quote:it can do 1920x1080 only if your console has a HDMI port.
Has anyone ever bothered quoting DoomLight's BS? "im not a fanboy" is false. They all suck? Really? If you hate Sony, you don't have a PS3, and have at most, only watched videos of the games that suck. Maybe you should play them, then make an inference.
Oh and as soon as the 360 60GB drops to $200 CDN, I'm picking one up with VGA cables. It can do 1024x768, right? Cause I don't want to have to see stretched video on my monitor.
the reason why is because of the pinout
the the Xbox by itsself does
640x480
848x480
1024x768
1280x720
1280x768
1280x1024
1360x768
#19
02 Oct 2008 @ 14:20
Quote:I thought the xbox360 could do 1920x1080 without the HDMI. Mine came with the HD component cables and i have a lcd set that displays picture at 1080p and 1080i. Also have an HDMI cable that i recently started using and their isnot much difference in the picture. You have to really look hard to notice diff between components and HDMI. There a small diff but i am not sure it is really worth investing the money into an expensive HDMI cable since you get the HD component cables free.Quote:it can do 1920x1080 only if your console has a HDMI port.
Has anyone ever bothered quoting DoomLight's BS? "im not a fanboy" is false. They all suck? Really? If you hate Sony, you don't have a PS3, and have at most, only watched videos of the games that suck. Maybe you should play them, then make an inference.
Oh and as soon as the 360 60GB drops to $200 CDN, I'm picking one up with VGA cables. It can do 1024x768, right? Cause I don't want to have to see stretched video on my monitor.
the reason why is because of the pinout
the the Xbox by itsself does
640x480
848x480
1024x768
1280x720
1280x768
1280x1024
1360x768
#20
02 Oct 2008 @ 16:13
I also thought that the non-HDMI version of the 360 could to 1080p and that they had a software update for it; however, it only worked if you had a VGA cable.
#21
02 Oct 2008 @ 19:26
No news since May, BUT, another thing we're all still waiting for is the Xbox360 Blu-Ray Drive!!!
Check these links.....(NOTE: All my links are in RED):
Xbox 360 Blu-ray console shipping by September?
Sony "in talks" with Microsoft about a Xbox 360 Blu-ray drive
I was one of those that bought the 360's HD-Drive at $169 just months before the plug was pulled on HD format. Then the drive price tanked to $35. Probably my fault for not keeping up on the news but I was in the middle of moving...oh, well.
Maybe related though....Blu-Ray drive prices are dropping fast and broad. Sony AND Panasonic price drops were all over the news within the last couple days....but Sony is the important one I think. Sony's Blu-Ray drive price cuts could be in part related to an upcoming and unannounced Blu-Ray 360 Drive, PLUS Apple wants BD-R (NOT just Blu-ray / DVD±RW) in their Notebooks and likely Desktops as well.
THIS ARTICLE and THIS ARTICLE sum it up with links all over the place.
Check these links.....(NOTE: All my links are in RED):
Xbox 360 Blu-ray console shipping by September?
Sony "in talks" with Microsoft about a Xbox 360 Blu-ray drive
I was one of those that bought the 360's HD-Drive at $169 just months before the plug was pulled on HD format. Then the drive price tanked to $35. Probably my fault for not keeping up on the news but I was in the middle of moving...oh, well.
Maybe related though....Blu-Ray drive prices are dropping fast and broad. Sony AND Panasonic price drops were all over the news within the last couple days....but Sony is the important one I think. Sony's Blu-Ray drive price cuts could be in part related to an upcoming and unannounced Blu-Ray 360 Drive, PLUS Apple wants BD-R (NOT just Blu-ray / DVD±RW) in their Notebooks and likely Desktops as well.
THIS ARTICLE and THIS ARTICLE sum it up with links all over the place.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 02 Oct 2008 @ 21:32
#22
02 Oct 2008 @ 21:36
Originally posted by SProdigy:No, it can do 1080i, it only does 1080p if you have a hdmi port.
I also thought that the non-HDMI version of the 360 could to 1080p and that they had a software update for it; however, it only worked if you had a VGA cable.
So its really a mute issue, for most people.
#23
02 Oct 2008 @ 23:25
Originally posted by DXR88:I favor 720p over 1080i and 1080p in cases where the TV is too small or where 720p is sharper. 1080p is a little much for now but I think it'll fit in perfectly as a good medium when the next next-gen systems come around, a few years from now.
No, it can do 1080i, it only does 1080p if you have a hdmi port.
So its really a mute issue, for most people.
Do you think it'll take a year for the 360 60GB to drop?
#24
02 Oct 2008 @ 23:26
Originally posted by rvinkebob:
Originally posted by DXR88:I favor 720p over 1080i and 1080p in cases where the TV is too small or where 720p is sharper. 1080p is a little much for now but I think it'll fit in perfectly as a good medium when the next next-gen systems come around, a few years from now.
No, it can do 1080i, it only does 1080p if you have a hdmi port.
So its really a mute issue, for most people.
Do you think it'll take a year for the 360 60GB to drop in price?
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