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weird winavi problem

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by pammy37, Apr 5, 2009.

  1. pammy37

    pammy37 Member

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    I back up a lot of my dvd's for friends and whether I use winavi or convertXtodvd, they have never had any problems viewing them with their respective dvd players.
    BUT I recently sent about a dozen dvd's to a friend...some i converted with winavi..some with convertXtodvd..NONE of the ones converted with winavi worked..on any of their 4 dvd players in their home.
    Why would this happen with only hers??

    I tried using different discs..but still the same result..so it isnt the discs.
    When I convert with winavi, I burn the movies with copytodvd....
    I believe that's the same burner that convertXtodvd uses as well..so the problem has to be with winavi....
    I can understand 1 or even 2 of her dvd players refusing to play..but 4 ?????

    I was at her place this morning and actually saw it all happening...
    The winavi movies play perfectly for 2 to 3 minutes..then just start really playing up..You cant watch them at all...

    Has anybody got a clue as to why this happens please...
    If anybody can help, it's you guys..I am totally at a loss.
    Regards to all
    pammy37
     
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    pammy37 Member

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    Thank you..I am aware of other converting and burning software available..I just wondered if anybody knew why this particular problem is happening to just this particular household of 4 dvd players.
    And why with Winavi.
    Maybe i have inadvertantly configured it somehow so that certain players reject it...
    But thank you anyway for your response.
    pammy37


     
  4. MysticE

    MysticE Active member

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    WinAvi has never been recommended on any forums that I go to.
     
  5. pammy37

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    Really??? It was probably on a forum that I first heard of it I've used it for years with no problem...I honestly believed it was one of the most reliable.
    Particularly a few weeks ago..I converted a movie with convertX and the synch was wayyy out....I did it again with winavi and the synch worked fine..I guess thats software for you...
    Maybe i will continue using convertXtodvd as my main converter,, but I will be having a look at what attar suggested as well.
    I guess the mystery of why all those players failed will just have to remain unsolved.
    Thanks for that info
    pammy37
     
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    mistycat Active member

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    My personal preference but I'm pretty picky about quality and I own both ConvertXtoDVD and WinAvi and I no longer have WinAvi installed. An easy and fast fix for sync issue's that don't change throughout the movie after encoding or even before is AviMux_Gui: http://www.alexander-noe.com/video/amg/ (vl binary 17.8). Open or drag your avi into the top window, highlight it and select generate data. In the lower window, highlight audio and your delay will appear to the right in ms. Select start and create a new avi to use. Check them all before encoding, most are fine on a pc.
     
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    The only thing that comes to mind if this is not working for you i would say is yes like a poster mentioned before change the dvd media you are using and the other thing you can change is uninstalling your programs and then reinstalling them again sometimes this is what is needed. A few questions that come to mind is what type of dvd media are you using and at what speed are you burning these movies???
     
  8. pammy37

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    I always use the absolute minimum burning speed that is possible,,,, and what do you mean by "dvd media" ??

    I use convertxtodvd and/or winavi..(both of which burn with vso copytodvd)
    Is that what you meant???

    I have never had any problems really with either of these, until my recent problem with that one person and her 4 dvd players...
    Pam
     
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    MysticE Active member

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    That's probably the problem, burn at a reasonable speed. I burn everything at 12X, including my 8X Taiyo Yudens.
     
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    What i mean by media is what is the dvd manufacturer??

    if u use a bad manufacturer it damages your dvd drive plus does not play the dvd most of the time.

    You should really burn your movies at 4X is optimal for all movies.

    Have you tired reinstalling the programs???
     
  11. MysticE

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    What decade are you from? With modern burners and discs 4X is probably the worst possible speed. Modern burners and media are not optimized for such ancient speeds. Here's a nice example of what can happen when quality 16X Taiyo Yuden media was burned at various speeds in a very well reviewed LG GH22NP20 burner.

    SONY DVD-R 16X ( TYG03 )
    Batch #GH000073 - 0909
    LG GH22NP20 1.00 ...Nero CD/DVD Speed 4.7.7.15
    Burn Speed 4X

    Nice Quality score :)

    [​IMG]

    Let's move it up a bit to a more reasonable 12X.

    SONY DVD-R 16X ( TYG03 )
    Batch #GH000073 - 0909
    LG GH22NP20 1.00 ...Nero CD/DVD Speed 4.7.7.15
    Burn Speed 12X

    Hmm... seems a tad better at 12X.

    [​IMG]

    Here's one of my scans. This is a 8X TYG02 burned at 12X in my Pioneer 115D (scanned in my Benq).

    [​IMG]

    Here's one of a 16X TYG03 burned at 20X in my Pioneer (scanned in my Optiarc).

    [​IMG]

    You got any real evidence to back up your '4X is optimal for all movies' myth?

    This is also quite humorous.
     
  12. pammy37

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    Borhan9,I must protest at your rudeness to a person who is genuinely trying to help me. Whether or not your "pretty pictures" are accurate or not is irrelevant to me at this point.
    I think you owe Mystice and myself an apology for turning an innocent query into a slanging match.
    Pammy37
     
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    ddp Moderator Staff Member

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    pammy, borhan was not stepping on Mystic but was replying to you so no apology needed.
     
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    No one ever has to apologize to me, I do stir the the pot at times :) But often there are too many unproven myths passed off as fact, with nothing to back them up.

     
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    Dear Pam,

    I did not post the pictures if notice the name of the poster you will see that it was and not me.

    My evidence is the many threads i have read throughout the many years here about bad burner brands and bad media like C-mag blank DVD's. If the new age burners have improved well thats something i am not aware of and would love to know more about.

    I did not mean to cause you any harm or insult your intelegence. I maybe here as a long time user however i am still learning everyday.

    The concept of AfterDawn to my knowledge and the few years i have been a member we help regardless and if a memebers information is wrong we do not attack one another but kindly make better suggestion or alternative choices.

    Thanks for your understanding. :)
     
  16. pammy37

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    Than I obviously read your reply to mystice wrongly, and so I apologise to YOU.
    To me asking a person what decade they are from, and telling them their answer is humorous..are totally unwarranted comments...
    But apparently not so to anybody else.
    I would have defended youthe same way should somebody have disagreed with YOU in the same tone.
    I assure you I do not come into this or any other forum for any other reason than to learn.

    I think from now on I will sit back and just watch the threads of other people, rather than start my own.

    Thank you all for your help
    Pammy37
     
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    larrylje Active member

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    @pammy37

    If you think that was rude then you have a long road ahead of you. Your best bet is to read only the informative stuff and just ignore everything else.

    As for speed I always say burn at half the rated speed. But of course this is only a preference. There are to many factors that come into play to say what you should and shouldn't be doing. All you can do is test yourself and find a setup that works best for you.
     
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