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Sony: Xbox 360 is too expensive
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article published on 9 January, 2009
Sony's marketing team has taken aim at Microsoft's Xbox 360 console in a recent press release, branding the console as too expensive and hyping the PlayStation 3 (PS3) as the best offer for your money. Specifically, Sony targeted the Xbox 360 Arcade unit, which it valued as $199. The press release claims that to get all the features of a standard 80GB PS3 model (at $399) for the Xbox 360 ... [ read the full article ]
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20. January 2009 @ 06:26 |
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Morreale: There's nothing to stop you putting Linux on a 360, the wifi control is excellent. My 360 genuinely runs cooler having installed the games to the hard drive, and its actually reasonably quiet.
Also, I paid 6 quid for my rechargable battery & play and charge kit. Granted, it's not an official product, but it does the job.
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20. January 2009 @ 08:36 |
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Originally posted by Morreale:
...Blu-Ray, card readers, Bluetooth, a rechargeable controller, an 80GB HDD(any size really), DVD upscaling...
Please, Morreale, get some facts right... the 360 has a "Scalar" chip specifically designed for upscaling, so no load on it's GPU. Unlike the PS3 which has to do it in software. (Also it's BluRay playback is done in software, which makes it questionable as to whether it's actually better to buy a dedicated hardware player for the job and extend the lifespan of what is, after all, a pretty crap optical drive assembly.)
The issue of having to have a rechargeable controller is dealt with with easily with NiMh batteries. So why keep bringing that up?
Please tell me why Bluetooth is better than WiFi mate- I can control the 360 from the other side of the house with it, so...?
PS. Btw, all decompression of data is also handled in the 360 (and the original Xbox) by dedicated hardware in real time on the fly. Just so you know.
It still has cheap and slow upscaling compared to dedicated units, the PS3 is better but not by much. You have to remember the 360 was not meant to do all this and they been shoe horning in crap into it with no real goal to make a solid media center out of the mess.
The 360 reminds me of what my friends say about heir Harleys it looks great runs good enough but has issues with parts running out,ect.
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20. January 2009 @ 09:38 |
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i don't even remember what i posted before... i know i only posted once and by default, i subscribed to this thread. Well, now that my one post is deleted, shouldn't i be automatically unsubscribed to this thread?
Oh wait, i did remember i said something about people like ugly things, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, that's it... No matter how flawed a system is, as long as people like it, who cares really.
Personally, buying a separate WiFi unit and adding the purchase cost on top of the console don't equal to "more bang for your buck" or anything in that nature. It's never the same as built in WiFi... Maybe two years ago, that's conceivable, but right now?! Come on, are we really still that backward? Are any of you still using fat monitors?! Regardless what's your Xbox network configuration, w/o WiFi, the physical location of the Xbox is pretty much fixed. Again, i don't mind doing the extra work two years ago, but certainly not now...
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20. January 2009 @ 09:55 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
i don't even remember what i posted before... i know i only posted once and by default, i subscribed to this thread. Well, now that my one post is deleted, shouldn't i be automatically unsubscribed to this thread?
"It's behind you" ... -> http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/738400/4490432
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20. January 2009 @ 10:38 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
i don't even remember what i posted before... i know i only posted once and by default, i subscribed to this thread. Well, now that my one post is deleted, shouldn't i be automatically unsubscribed to this thread?
Oh wait, i did remember i said something about people like ugly things, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, that's it... No matter how flawed a system is, as long as people like it, who cares really.
Personally, buying a separate WiFi unit and adding the purchase cost on top of the console don't equal to "more bang for your buck" or anything in that nature. It's never the same as built in WiFi... Maybe two years ago, that's conceivable, but right now?! Come on, are we really still that backward? Are any of you still using fat monitors?! Regardless what's your Xbox network configuration, w/o WiFi, the physical location of the Xbox is pretty much fixed. Again, i don't mind doing the extra work two years ago, but certainly not now...
The nature of consumerism is witlessness masochism, IE they do not think or question thus why you see alot of dings and nicks in mass market goods but they can get away with it.
The PS3 is built with the newest tech but they try to hard to promote the wireless stuff that no mater how good I would rather have wired, the 360 is still a Frankenstein but a kinder gentler one than it use to be. The WII is a child, a high tech child...on cocaine it dose soemthigns well but thier are gaps in design elements in both hardware and software that makes any techie wonder WTF.
Its still about a grand for all 3 and 10 or so games and frankly...its still not worth the price of admission...
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20. January 2009 @ 11:40 |
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I also notice one of my posts here has gone missing. Meh. I too think wired networking is the only way to go if you care about playing games.
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20. January 2009 @ 11:48 |
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Sam - I can't see any of your posts having been deleted either.
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It wasn't really a particularly useful post, I just commented that I thought the PS3 looked better than the xbox, in contrast to whoever said otherwise.
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20. January 2009 @ 11:55 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Sam - I can't see any of your posts having been deleted either.
Sometimes I write a post out and it dose not take it...then again sometimes someone(raises hand) forgets to hit post >>
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20. January 2009 @ 16:00 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Morreale: There's nothing to stop you putting Linux on a 360,
Well voiding the warranty does, and with it's dark history I'd rather keep it...
PS3 you just install the OtherOs and install+boot your Linux distro of choice; Gentoo, Ubuntu, Fedora or Yellow Dog.
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20. January 2009 @ 16:04 |
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Good thing they're cheap enough to just buy another then :P
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20. January 2009 @ 16:07 |
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Bringing my total to like $700 lol
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20. January 2009 @ 17:37 |
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300+300 = 700. I see.
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20. January 2009 @ 18:27 |
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And a Wifi Adapter...
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20. January 2009 @ 18:32 |
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Well, technically, if you did replace the system you could just get an arcade which are only $200. The official adapter being $87, that'd be $587, assuming the console even broke in the first place. With the new revisions, who knows? Not to mention the four free games you got, which would be worth what, $150? 550 versus 587 doesn't seem too raw a deal, especially considering this all relies on the fact that the xbox will actually break in the first place.
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20. January 2009 @ 19:10 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Well, technically, if you did replace the system you could just get an arcade which are only $200. The official adapter being $87, that'd be $587, assuming the console even broke in the first place. With the new revisions, who knows? Not to mention the four free games you got, which would be worth what, $150? 550 versus 587 doesn't seem too raw a deal, especially considering this all relies on the fact that the xbox will actually break in the first place.
I'd put 200 more into one and leave it offline, chip it save some cash then have the other for all the online crap MS offers.
Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
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20. January 2009 @ 19:15 |
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Been there done that :)
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20. January 2009 @ 19:17 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Been there done that :)
And from the smilie I see things are still working well :X
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20. January 2009 @ 19:18 |
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Give it time, we only carried out the procedure three days ago...
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20. January 2009 @ 19:24 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Give it time, we only carried out the procedure three days ago...
I hope it survives its operation well and has a long life!!
Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
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20. January 2009 @ 19:25 |
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Until the DVD drive finally gives out I suppose... :S It wasn't in perfect health before, but hey, we bought it before Christmas 06...
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21. January 2009 @ 10:40 |
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You guys/gals still going the math thing... While it kinda make sense, but it doesn't really matter anymore. What bothers me more is that MS never redesign the Xbox 360 (adding a HDMI port is not really a redesign). Shouldn't there be a slimmer, cooler (maybe not cooler, but definitely something "improved"?) by now? By that i mean, something "sexy" (like Apple products) w/o red rings problems, bigger/better hdd upgrade options and build in WiFi? I guess we'll never see that day do we? Well, with that, at least now you can compare with the PS3's prices and what not.
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21. January 2009 @ 10:51 |
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The 360 is built to a price, and it shows. They've only just got the heat down enough for it to run properly full size, let alone shrunk. The same goes for the PS3, it uses too much power, and therefore produces too much heat to be shrunk down. The old PS2 slim used 40W and went slim when it dropped to about 25. Even the new xbox 360 uses 140W and the PS3 170W.
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21. January 2009 @ 10:56 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The 360 is built to a price, and it shows. They've only just got the heat down enough for it to run properly full size, let alone shrunk. The same goes for the PS3, it uses too much power, and therefore produces too much heat to be shrunk down. The old PS2 slim used 40W and went slim when it dropped to about 25. Even the new xbox 360 uses 140W and the PS3 170W.
Well putting the DVD drive below the board and adding more vents/ducts to the CPU/GPU to improve heat dispensation is a start.....
Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
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21. January 2009 @ 10:59 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The 360 is built to a price, and it shows. They've only just got the heat down enough for it to run properly full size, let alone shrunk. The same goes for the PS3, it uses too much power, and therefore produces too much heat to be shrunk down. The old PS2 slim used 40W and went slim when it dropped to about 25. Even the new xbox 360 uses 140W and the PS3 170W.
Okay, maybe not slim then... Yeah, i heard about those slim desktops, they have air circulation problems. Yeah, it would be funny if the Xbox is actually slimmed down and the power brick is still the same size, lol. This i don't get, why the damn power brick has to be so big? It doesn't bother me much since it's on the back of the TV and stuffs, but still, people do move around their Xbox.
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