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Sony: Xbox 360 is too expensive

article published on 9 January, 2009

Sony's marketing team has taken aim at Microsoft's Xbox 360 console in a recent press release, branding the console as too expensive and hyping the PlayStation 3 (PS3) as the best offer for your money. Specifically, Sony targeted the Xbox 360 Arcade unit, which it valued as $199. The press release claims that to get all the features of a standard 80GB PS3 model (at $399) for the Xbox 360 ... [ read the full article ]

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21. January 2009 @ 11:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Originally posted by sammorris:
The 360 is built to a price, and it shows. They've only just got the heat down enough for it to run properly full size, let alone shrunk. The same goes for the PS3, it uses too much power, and therefore produces too much heat to be shrunk down. The old PS2 slim used 40W and went slim when it dropped to about 25. Even the new xbox 360 uses 140W and the PS3 170W.
Okay, maybe not slim then... Yeah, i heard about those slim desktops, they have air circulation problems. Yeah, it would be funny if the Xbox is actually slimmed down and the power brick is still the same size, lol. This i don't get, why the damn power brick has to be so big? It doesn't bother me much since it's on the back of the TV and stuffs, but still, people do move around their Xbox.

Because it requires as much power if not more than a laptop.

I'd rather have a 360 thats the size of a VHS/DVD/DVR with plenty of room for cooling that what they are now.

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Because the xbox uses so much power, the power brick needs to be that size. The bricks for things like phone chargers use a twentieth of the power that the xbox does. Even laptop chargers use half as much, hence why they're twice the size. Think about how big a PC power supply inside is - it's exactly the same device inside. The PS3 puts it inside, which is primarily why the console is larger than xbox.
Fortunately, reduced heat (i.e size) is from reduced power - and reduced power means a smaller power brick.
Zippy: You've presumably seen the mods where people put xbox 360s in tower PC cases, or add LED fans in the top panel?





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Originally posted by sammorris:
Because the xbox uses so much power, the power brick needs to be that size. The bricks for things like phone chargers use a twentieth of the power that the xbox does. Even laptop chargers use half as much, hence why they're twice the size. Think about how big a PC power supply inside is - it's exactly the same device inside. The PS3 puts it inside, which is primarily why the console is larger than xbox.
Fortunately, reduced heat (i.e size) is from reduced power - and reduced power means a smaller power brick.
Zippy: You've presumably seen the mods where people put xbox 360s in tower PC cases, or add LED fans in the top panel?
I have seen some.

Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
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21. January 2009 @ 22:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Morreale:
...You have to pay for rechargeable batteries either way. It just adds on top...

Any better? :)
Well, look at it this way Morreale, I have a number of devices in my place that I use long-life rechargeable batteries in already. eg Camera, torches etc. It only makes sense because it's more convenient and far cheaper. Most modern people are adopting NiMh because of it's cost effectiveness and it's greener (I'd be willing to bet you do too).

Ergo, it didn't add anything to the top. (And it's actually more versatile because more devices benefit from that arrangement anyway.) Regardless, I don't know where you are but I assume that a 4pack of NiMh batteries would cost only about $8 in the states.

In conclusion, at the very least, it doesn't make the 360 any more expensive than the PS3. So it's an utterly pissweak argument to keep bringing up.

Regards anyway.

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22. January 2009 @ 00:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just did a quick search, 4-pack (I'd have 2 controllers at least) of Duracell NiMh batteries without a charger is $30+tax... That's enough for me...

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22. January 2009 @ 00:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Morreale:
Just did a quick search, 4-pack (I'd have 2 controllers at least) of Duracell NiMh batteries without a charger is $30+tax... That's enough for me...
Haha, you would pick one the most expensive brands wouldn't you? Perhaps that's why you own a iMac.

You pay for the advertising and hype... Become shop-smart and try a different brand and stop being so obtuse. AfterDawn is a great site precisely because it makes one more aware of the options available to users (like Hackintoshes for instance), amongst other things.

I use Powertech 2400mAh batteries, about $16 here in Oz and our dollar is worth about half of the States'. They're perfectly serviceable, 1000 recharges. Oh yeah, the fast charger (PowerTech Plus) was about $35AUS.

EDIT: I just occurred to me you said: "I've never had a controller die on me when I'm playing, and when the battery is low I just grab my other controller off of the USB and put the dead one on. No problems." So you had to buy a second controller just to achieve the kind of continuous wireless playing myself and others on this thread get by just swapping over a pair of NiMh! ROFL.

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Haha, that is quite funny actually. It didn't occur to me you can't just swap the batteries in an instant when they go flat.
Also, I can buy a NimH battery pack with the batteries, including a play and charge cable too, for £7 off ebay. Given the £130 price differential between the two consoles, that's a lot of wireless battery packs.




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