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#2451
08 Jan 2012 @ 18:08
omegaman7
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While I'm disappointed with several factors of the Bulldozer, I wouldn't say I wish it hadn't happened. A step is a step, no matter how small. And no, I would not say a step backward. It has certain benefits over other processors, despite people ignoring them. I do acknowledge it's single thread performance(or rather lack thereof). I've read of people talking about windows being coded to handle them better. Performance increase? Don't know yet.
The only thing at this point that really disappoints me, is the power consumption. But it is a core beast. Perhaps we'll see what piledriver has in store. I'd really like to see a revision of the 8150/8170. E.g. B3 stepping?
The only thing at this point that really disappoints me, is the power consumption. But it is a core beast. Perhaps we'll see what piledriver has in store. I'd really like to see a revision of the 8150/8170. E.g. B3 stepping?
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#2453
08 Jan 2012 @ 18:12
npb
The thing about Bulldozer, is that in actual fact, it isn't a step forward. What it is, is a crossover from the server market to the desktop market. Everything about the way Bulldozer works makes it better for servers. The same is also true of Sandy Bridge-E (i7-3900 series). When you remember that Opterons exist, Bulldozer isn't a step forward at all. It's just a server chip that fits on desktop motherboards. They put server chips on server boards for a reason...
The thing about Bulldozer, is that in actual fact, it isn't a step forward. What it is, is a crossover from the server market to the desktop market. Everything about the way Bulldozer works makes it better for servers. The same is also true of Sandy Bridge-E (i7-3900 series). When you remember that Opterons exist, Bulldozer isn't a step forward at all. It's just a server chip that fits on desktop motherboards. They put server chips on server boards for a reason...
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#2455
08 Jan 2012 @ 18:14
That's what I'm here for :)
Edited my message into the other post.
Edited my message into the other post.

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#2456
08 Jan 2012 @ 18:18
Well, it certainly caters to multitasking freaks :p There are people that have compared it to 2500-2600k, and said the bulldozer felt smoother when running multiple processes/threads. Perhaps an Amd fanboy, giving points in Amd's favor though. It sure would be a step up in my configuration. I'd probably be concerned about load on the VRM's though :S
#2457
08 Jan 2012 @ 18:31
That would come from there being many cores, so there is more breathing room for other tasks if you really are maxing out the CPU 100%. If you want a system to be fluidly responsive but use 100% of its raw power, you're doing it wrong, but there's no reason you can't down-prioritise a task if you want to use the system for a bit during the middle of the work.

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#2458
13 Jan 2012 @ 0:56
I wasn't expecting a miracle, but here it is. Not sure what I'm doing in february. I'd like to see my encode times cut in half, clearly I'm not gonna see that for at least a while longer. Perhaps when the 10 and 12 core beasts come out, I'll build a machine chiefly for encoding. Provided it isn't too expensive :S
Microsoft patches Bulldozers performance
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/11...-we-investigate
Microsoft patches Bulldozers performance
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/11...-we-investigate
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#2459
13 Jan 2012 @ 2:20
Originally posted by omegaman7:4%, about what I expected. I was thinking along the lines of 5-10.
I wasn't expecting a miracle, but here it is. Not sure what I'm doing in february. I'd like to see my encode times cut in half, clearly I'm not gonna see that for at least a while longer. Perhaps when the 10 and 12 core beasts come out, I'll build a machine chiefly for encoding. Provided it isn't too expensive :S
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/11...-we-investigate

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