I'm trying to backup Fatal Frame 2 Director's Cut, but have so far ended up with 3 bad burns, on 2 different types of media (1 Verbatim, 2 Ritek). I have successfully burned to both (1 each, actually) in the past. Please let me know if I'm doing something wrong: 1. Put original in Xbox 2. WS_FTP Pro and rip directly from disc to PC (also ripped to Xbox HDD first, but that didn't burn well either) 3. Ran GDFImage x:\ff2 x:\ff2.iso 4. Burned with DVD Decrypter 5. Put backup into Xbox, and EvoX says Unknown for disc Incidently, it plays off the HDD fine, so I know it wasn't a bad original disc or anything like that. Any suggestions? Do some games need patches? If so, where to get them? I read that older bios may need patches, but I have a fairly new chip (Xecuter 3) with quite new drivers, as I just installed everything in January. Thanks! Oh, I am going to now try to backup my Halo 2 to see if that works, to verify if it's something I'm doing wrong or something specific to Fatal Frame 2.