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7 minute Premier .AVI 1.4 Gigabytes!!! Help!

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  1. abrogard

    abrogard Regular member

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    I'm trying to make a simple movie - really just a series of still slides with a commentary at the back. It takes just over seven minutes (the audio). (It's actually a poetry reading with simultaneous display of text)

    New to Adobe Premier I've figured it out enough to make a movie but the .avi file it makes is 1.4 gigabytes!!

    1. What am I doing wrong with Premier?

    2. Is there a better prog I should be using? (I'm really not doing anything complicated)

    3. Is there a freeware thing? (I get more and more impressed by the freeware stuff - it's often the best)

    4. I'm aiming at a VCD to display this audio/poem. For user interactivity - i.e. jumping from verse to verse - what better way could I go?
     
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    Minion Senior member

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    Your Problem is that you are Exporting the File as a Uncompressed AVI file ,But this is OK because if you are Makeing a VCD out of the File you will have to encode the File to Mpeg1 anyways which will turn the 1.4gb 7 minute File into a file of about 70mb...
    You can also export the File in Premier as a VCD/Mpeg1 file if you have a Mpeg encoder Plugin for Premier.....Cheers
     
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    abrogard Regular member

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    OK, thanks. I'll try to bring it into Nero or something and see if accepts it and cuts it down to size. And I'll look for the encoder plugin. Why that amazing difference in size? Is raw .avi just full of redundant info?
     
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    Minion Senior member

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    NEVER use the Nero to encode your Files to VCD/SVCD/DVD because it is well known that it uses the worst Quality encoder ever created...
    Download Tmpgenc as it is one of the Best encoders for VCD encodeing and it is Free for VCD/Mpeg1 encodeing....
    Uncompressed Video is exactly that "Uncompressed" there is No redundant Data....
    What Compression does is it uses the Video information that is Visible to the eye and throws the rest away, as you Probably know there are Many Different Wavelengths in an Image and only a Small Part of it is Visible to the eye so Compression just takes the Video that is usefull and throws away the rest......
     
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    I dragged it into Nero to test and sure enough - like lightning - nero just accepted it and showed it as 75Meg. Unreal. From 1.7Gig to 75Meg in a microsecond.

    I've got TMPG and I've used it a little - following instructions. I've never really known just what it is doing. It is principally a translator from one format to another - is that it?

    And I've also got Virtual Dub and just the same I've used it a little bit, following instructions, and have not know what it is really doing. It seems to be for precisely the same thing: translating from one format to another.

    Can you explain these two programmes for me?

    I did have a hassle trying to make a VCD with the TMPG/Virtual Dub method and I remember trying to just drag the file into Nero (I forget the format of that file but it needed translating) and Nero just accepted it and translated it and I got my VCD with no trouble.

    So I think Nero has definite value in the translating world.

    If it uses the world's worst encoder why is it the worst? What's so bad about it? Would I care (being a non-specialist)?

    Thanks to you I'll go back to using Premier. I was using Ulead DVD Picture Show and it runs incredibly slowly, incredible. For that same simple project. And it seems to be completely without bells and whistles. In fact I can't even find how to export slideshows from a project so's I can use them again in another project - I don't think you can even do it. Do you happen to know about that?

    regards,

    ab
     
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    What is so Bad About Nero is the Quality of it"s encodeing is Awefull..(It"s Called Encodeing Not Translateing)
    Useing Tmpgenc to encode your 7 Minute file to Mpeg1/VCD will Produce a MUCH Higher Quality File...

    Virtual Dub is for Editing AVI files and for encodeing AVI files to other AVI formats useing the Codecs you have installed on your PC....
    Tmpgenc is For Encodeing Many Different Formats to Mpeg1 and Mpeg2...Mpeg1 is the Format used to make VCD"s and Mpeg2 is the Format used to make SVCD"s and DVD"s....

    It seems that you Know very little or Nothing about Digital video, so I suggest if you want to get into makeing your Own VCD"s and/Or DVD"s that you read some of the Guides on this Site or over at :
    http://www.dvdrhelp.com/

    I went to Broadcasting School for 2 years and work as a Video editor for a Studio in Vancouver and have worked on TV shows and Major Motion pictures and More Commercials than I can even remember so I know a Little about digital video, and I know it is very confuseing at first to figure out but after a while you will begin to learn what it is all about but it takes a little dedication and a Lot of Time....

    Cheers
     
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    abrogard Regular member

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    Thanks for your comments, they're valuable. I am interested and I will supply the dedication. I didn't know it was going to happen but all my computer interest seems to be converging on making movies - ultimately DVD's would be the way to go, I guess.

    As an aside I like your comment 'It's better to be....' but I've lived my life by it and find it's got an associated cost, too, don't you? Over a period you can sort of clear a space around yourself with your anger and get isolated, cut off....

    regards,

    ab
     
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    Thats Basicly how it was for me also...I wasn"t much Into video games and I didn"t have the Head for Programming and all i seemed to be doing with my Computer was Transfering my old home movies to my PC and editing them and I liked that sort of stuff so Much i decided i wanted to go to school and get into something that had to do with Video and Computers so I went to Broadcasting school which taught you a Little about everything from Being a Camera Man to toing TV production and Video editing and after 2 years i decided to be a Video editor and was able to get a Job at the same place I did my Work experience which was a Studio that did work on a lot of TV Shows and Major motion Pictures Like Stargate SG1, and the X-Men 2 Movie and many more smaller features and Films....
    It is a hard field to get into cuz there just isn"t that much work for a Video editor here in Canada so most of my work is By contract so I only get to work maybe 4 to 8 months of the Year but the Pay is good and there are certain Fringe Benefits like lots of free software and you get to meet a Lot of Cool poeple in the Movie industry.....

    Well talk to you later....Cheers
     

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