I've had a normal ps2 for about 4-5 years now, never had a problem with it. About 2 years ago I bought the swap magic discs and a fliptop for it, again everything worked great. Sometime last year on occasion it would give me a disc read error on my swap magic discs, not a big deal it would load 90% of the time but I would get those errors every now and then. Now recently, my discs will work maybe 1 of 10 tries. Yesterday I tried to play a game and just gave up because it wouldn't read the swap magic discs. It's also making a LOT of strange noises when trying to read the discs, like a grinding sound I guess. Any suggestions on how I can fix this? I tried cleaning the lens with rubbing alcohol and a q-tip but that didn't seem to help. If all else fails I'm thinking of buying a new ps2 but all they sell are the slim ps2's. My question about the slims is do they read DVD+R's? Just about all of my Back-ups are DVD+R's and I hear some ps2's have trouble reading DVD+R's. And do they make fliptops for slim ps2's? Thanks in advance for any advice on this.