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A question about Subs

Discussion in 'Convert DVD to another format' started by Danage, Nov 4, 2011.

  1. Danage

    Danage Member

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    Hi All!

    I have a question about subtitles with xvid. I'm currently using winx dvd ripper to convert my dvds to avi-xvid, I really like its 'high quality engine' the results are great! but I have a problem and that's subtitles, from what I know you can either have subs, or not. what I am trying to achieve is to put subs in for specific scenes, for example take the film avatar, I only want subtitles to appear when there speaking in the alien language or lord of the rings for when there speaking in Elvish.

    Also I am confused on which format to really go for, winx dvd boasts about MP4-h.246, but have tried many dvd9 100% quality rips of each format and on everyone xvid looks sharper and brighter.

    Can anyone help me with this?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    attar Senior member

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    Forced subtitles may be in a separate subtitle stream on a DVD or the may be included with regular subs.
    You can demux the 'forced' parts using VSRIP.
    Select the .IFO file associated with the main title and select the stream which might have forced subs.
    Check the box for 'forced subtitles only' and save the file.
    Files are saved as a sub/idx pair.
    If you were using the subs for playback with and AVI file on a standalone player, you name the subtitles the same as the video, thus:

    clip.avi
    clip.idx
    clip.sub


    http://www.videohelp.com/tools/VSRip

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    Other options are to open the original DVD rip with DVDSubEdit, select a stream and check the 'show only forced subpics' box.

    You can now use the OCR feature to save the subs in .srt format.
     
  3. Danage

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    Thanks for your reply attar!

    I have managed to extract the forced subs and there saved as an srt file. I need my avis to be able to play on the xbox360 as well as xvid compatible DVD players, how can i hard-code the forced-subs without effecting the video quality of the avi ?
     
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    Hard subs means recoding - I would use AutoGK (it can load from the .IFO of a DVD or use an AVI source).
    For external .srt subs, use Ctrl F8 to bring up the prompt.
    I use 'Target Quality' of 75%.
     
  5. Danage

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    Thanks for your reply, I figured out another way, not sure if its the ideal thing to do tho, seems to work.

    My method

    1: DvdFab to rip the dvd to disk, using dvd9 for 100% quality
    2: Strip the forced subs using DVDSubEdit, saving as .SUB
    3: Demux the rip using PgcDemux to an output folder.
    4: Replace the subs in the output folder with the forced subs from DVDSubEdit.
    5: Multiplex the output from PgcDemux using Rejig, include video source, audio, your new subtitles, cell times, as well as the original IFO for the correct sub colour/font.
    6: Convert to avi (don't forget to enable subtitles) using winx dvd ripper platinum or your favourite avi conversion app.

    Result: High quality avi's with force subs ;-)

    Many thanks attar.
     
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    attar Senior member

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    This worked for me for forced subs inside a normal stream.
    Hide the normal subs and show the forced subs.

    Load DVD in DVDSubEdit
    'Show only forced subpics'.
    'Hide SubPic'.
    'Edit' > 'Apply last mods.to all' > 'Do it'.
    Uncheck 'Show only forced subpics'.
    'Hide SubPic'
    'Edit' > 'Apply last mods.to all' > 'Do it'.
    'Show only forced subpics'.
    'Edit' > 'Reload all SPUs from file'.
    'File' > 'Save all modifications'.

    The result was the normal subs were hidden, the forced subs displayed in the modified DVD.
    I never tried converting the modified DVD to AVI - another day.
     
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    attar Senior member

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    Less steps:

    Load DVD
    Hide subpic
    Edit > Apply last mods.to all > Do it.
    Show only forced subpics
    Reload all SPUs from file
    Save all modifications.

    Converted the new DVD to AVI and it only displayed the forced subs.
     
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  8. Danage

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    You are a legend! thanks attar a much easer and quicker way!
     

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