I am new to the forum and am in the market to buy a DVd recorder. I have satellite with a PVR so do not need a DVD recorder with Hard drive. I also want to make sure the DVD recorder I buy does not copy protection because I want to convert VHS to DVD and also burn movies from the PVR to DVD. I have narrowed down the players to: Pioneer DVR-220 Panasonic DMR-E55 Philips DVDR72(from Walmart). I would appreciate any advice from others.