Ok. I see a ton of tutorials but nothing that fully answers my question. If everyone were to rip their own backups properly, then would we ever need ABGX? When xgd3 RROD rips were released, no one said we needed abgx because they were all supposedly ripped using the 0800 fw. But who is to say that they were not ripped properly, like most of the other rips floating around? Can someone "dumb" this down for me? I'm a bit confused as to why we need to re-patch certain AP25 games after an update....but people who ripped their own backups don't need to re-patch. What gives? Thanks in advance.