I'm a little knew at this type of thing.....but not a newbie. I guess you could say I'm a newbie with copying game console disks but not with dvd writing and such. I've heard all over the net that you always have to have a mod or something that does the same function as a mod. With my knowlege of DVD burning and computers, I reasoned that there has to be a way to make a copy that can be played without the mod ect. Does anyone know how that would be done? Again, I'm almost positive it can be done....somehow. I tried to create an ISO from DVD Decrypter because I hear that's a good program and it's what I use for DVD movies. I put it in the ps2 once it burned and it said please put in a disk that is ps2 format or something like that. I know on Xbox, the data is written differently so backups are harder, but people still do that so does anyone know if there is a way? If so, how? I'm willing to learn.