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Best media for Pioneer 106D?

Discussion in 'DVD±R media' started by Fibre, Sep 9, 2003.

  1. Fibre

    Fibre Guest

    Well I have been trying to get rid of these blocky pixels for 5 day's now. So for the media I have used is.

    Princo
    Maxell
    Verbatim
    Pine (the closest it came)

    I have made 15 coasters. What is the best media for The Pioneer 106D. BTW. I have not applied the 1.06 update, could that be the problem? and it's an external.
     
  2. Tosca

    Tosca Guest

    Hmm That is bad. Princo media getting bad results, no big surprise. Verbatim should be good stuff. If you can't get the 106 to burn a good copy with a verbatim then I'll have to repeat myself again.

    The 106 sucks.

    Oh...Try some ritek. Get some other brands and see what works for you. What works for others may not work for you.

    Oh. One more thing. It may not be the media or the drive at all. It could be your ancient cheap arse DVD player. test your burned dvds on other players and see if you get the same results.
     
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  3. Fibre

    Fibre Guest

    i tested 17 standalones and 4 DVD-ROMs all the same result.

    So can I assume you had bad experiences with the 106D? What happened. Please share?
     
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  4. Tosca

    Tosca Guest

    No I have the 105 but you can see that more and more folk are having probs with the 106. There will be more as more get the 106 and the 105 is phased out. The 106 has the same probs as the 500AX sony, another multi-format drive, which I have also.

    Some media works and some don't with the multi-formats.

    So in conclusion, multi-format drives are not all that its cracked up to be.
     
  5. TL0

    TL0 Member

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    Tosca,
    Gotta disagree about the Pioneer 106, bought one recently, works no probs with both Arita +R & Ritek G03 discs, even managed to read the screwed princo disc i had recieved so i could save the contents while my DVD-Rom drive gave up on the same disc with read errors.

    Don't bother with princo-dye discs as reliability is my top priority & not price.Fibre. the Verbatim you tried maybe made by CMC & not MCC so maybe the lower quality verb's made in Taiwan. Also does the fact it's an external burner have anything to do with your problems?, check your setup.
     
  6. Fibre

    Fibre Guest

    Well ordered a new kick ass system. Check this out....

    3.06 Mhz PIIII
    120 GIG HD
    128 MB Vid Card (GFX)
    512 MB of RAM (going to expand to 1GIG with in the next few months)

    Wolfenstien ET and Unreal Tournament are gonna fly on this Mofo. Any way I'm making my drive an internal. So let's see if that solves the fragmenting problem......17 coasters later.

    BTW should I update the firmware to 1.06? It's at 1.05 now. I've been reading horror stories.
     
  7. chrishart

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    Hi

    I would also have to disagree with the bad comments about the 106. I have used at 15 bulkpaq orange and about 10 datawrite red's and every one of them play in my "cheap arse" £45 pacific dvd player despite the fact that they are regognised at the worst two types of media (both use princo dye's i think).

    The only reason that the 106 is picky is because of the 4x. i haven't heard anyone say that they have even had a bad disk when they write at 2x. It just new technology that takes time to settle down.

    To fibre, i haven't upgraded the fireware because of the horror stories and i haven't had a problem. You could try ordering a sample pack of dvd media which are available from various sites. In these you get a range of 4x disks from different suppliers which can be used to find a disk that works for you which turns out to be alot cheaper than buying 10/25 at a time to find that they dont work.

    You also say that the quality is poor which may have been down to a slow computer but you have upgraded which should fix it. It may also be the encoding/writing software that you are using. All i can say is that i have used nerovision to encode to files and nero buring rom to burn them and all of them work fine.

    You say that it is external, i take it that it is in a usb external enclosure. I suppose that as long as it is working at USB2 it should be fine. But if either the enclosure or you computer doesn't support usb2 then it will only work at USB1.1 which i would guess is too slow for the dvd drive which may haev caused the problems you mentioned.

    before you buy any disks, and programs for that matter, take a look at http://www.dvdrhelp.com as they haev tons of reviews about the drives, disks and tools

    Regards

    Chris
     
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  8. Tosca

    Tosca Guest

    PShaw. The Taiwan verbatims didn't work with a multiformat drive namely the Sony 500ax but works fine with a 105 single format drive.

    You do the math.
     
  9. Fibre

    Fibre Guest

    Hey Chris

    Thanks for the pointers. BTW I'm not using USB2 I'm hooking the burner via FireWire. But that does'nt make a difference now because I'm getting it installed internally.

    I'll post my results

     
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  10. devbias

    devbias Guest

    @Fibre
    Got same drive and tried bulkpack orange and ritek reds. Found that bulkpack would start to break up towards the end of movie when wrote at 4X but would be perfect when wrote at 1x if you got the time. Datawrite reds work perfect at 4x, not had a bad one yet.
     
  11. shoes

    shoes Guest

    I have been using the Datawrite Red at 4x for a while now - never had a coaster, I originally used the 105, then moved to the 106, I do not find any negative issus with this drive over the 105!
     
  12. eminence

    eminence Guest

    PFFFT to 106 naysayers. I've had one for a month, and, after some initial growing pains, have burned NO coasters after about 130 discs burned. I have used Fujifilm 2x just fine, and am now using Memorex 4x's, which work like a charm. Burns a 4.3gb DVD in 13 minutes, like clockwork.

    Funny how people that don't even OWN one talk crap.
     
  13. Oriphus

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    Any Official Grade A Ritek media
     
  14. gkmpb4

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    I have an internal pioneer 106d and it works fine burning on maxwell dvd-r. I bought +r's and had problems and changed to dvd-r and never tried any other media. My other problems is that this thing is suppose to be a combo drive if Im not mistaken. It doesent even read the blank cd media. I didnt take it back cuz it burns the movies OK and I already have a PLextor 16x cd burner, and I can only choose 2x brn speed. slower is better any way so I cant complain. And my firmware is still 1.05. I copy with xpress 3.0 and I burn with Nero6.
    And this is what Im running on.

    850 Duron!!!! yes I know. I can ugrade to 2.2, but after listening to you other guys with the 2gigs and 3 gigs still having problems, Im not in any hurry to have something that fast that really wont matter. the error will just come up faster. its fast enough to do what I need to do.
    512mb ddr memory
    120Gb WD HD
    64MB ddr ATI videocard.
     
  15. shoes

    shoes Guest

    Now I have used DVD-R, DVD-RW & DVD+RW, I always go for the fastest burn speed and have had no isues at all, I always get what I expect, 4x, 2x or 2.4x as defined by the type of disk. The only thing I have seen is with one DVD-RW Datawrite, I had it die on me after a wipe for no apparent reason, I did notice some surface scratches, maybe sensitive to these!?
    I have also burn't CDR and CDRW without a hitch, also either st the max drive speed or CD speed as I only have 4x CDRW. I have never had an issue with these at all!

    I'm using an Athlon2.6, ECS M/B, 512M2700Ram, 120WD HD........
     
  16. eminence

    eminence Guest

    I burn +R's no problem -- my standalone won't take -R's (Time to get a new one anyway). I don't know if I'm just lucky, but I've had no problems that weren't attributable to the learning curve.
     
  17. skamxxiii

    skamxxiii Guest

    I bought a pioneer dvr-106 on July 16 and burned 56 DVD since and I have had only 1 problem. I have been using Memorex DVDs and hypermedia. The 1 problem that I had wasn’t with the media it was 321 studios express started burning and after about 20 seconds then stopped
     

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