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binatone carrera a350 problem

Discussion in 'PDA discussion' started by benji1966, Apr 4, 2008.

  1. benji1966

    benji1966 Member

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    Hi, i have a problem with my binatone carrera a350, which is the x350 with europe on it.I assumed the europe maps would be preloaded but italy an the scandanavian countries come on a cd.I followed the instructions to copy the maps on the cd to an SD card(not included) which i did.The problem is the sat. nav. wont recognise the new sd card, I tried a different sd card but with the same result.I brought the sat nav back to the shop and they replaced it with a new sat nav....same result.It works fine with the SD card that came loaded with the other countries.Can anyone help???
     
  2. hoait88

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    likely your card is formatted in NTFS file system. You should reformat it using either FAT or FAT32 and it should work.
     
  3. benji1966

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    Hi, thanks for your reply but I have formatted both the SD cards I used in both Fat and FAT 32 format with the same result, the sat nav doesn't recognise either card???? I have sent the cards I used and the cd the maps came on back to binatone carrera and will post their prognosis.
     
  4. mwaiter1

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    I would recommend putting tomtom on this nice little device, its easy to do and it works fine
     
  5. razzbag

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    Is that possible? Any chance of a few pointers as to how to do it? (I think I know where to get the software)
     
  6. crisoton

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    i would also like some tips on how to put tom tom on a binatone
     
  7. athers

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    i would also like to know how to put tomtom on the a350
     
  8. tomcat415

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    i would also like to know how to put tomtom on the a350
     
  9. tomaka0

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    i too would like to install tom tom on a350
     
  10. mwaiter1

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    Hi Gents apologies for the late reply.

    You are going to need a PDA with tomtom 6 already installed on it.. your use the files located on the pda to transfer across to the binatone carrera.

    ok it is hard for me to explain on here so please bare with me - for sure it works, I will warn you first to backup your old binatone navigator files onto your pc first and also sometimes it has been known for the tomtom software to crash on the binatone so make sure you back them up to.

    From experience my binatone carrera has crashed twice and sometimes i've had to reload the tomtom files on it again.. and if anyone fixes that then let me know.

    Ok here goes.

    So you've backed up your folders - the ResidentFlash folder with the navi files on is the most important to back up.

    you need to have the a version of tomtom 6 which you have installed onto a PDA - the reason for this is simple - the folders on the pda under program files and the flash files replaces the MobileNavigator files inside the binatone carrera, along with some other files you have stored somewhere on your pda..

    1st - make sure you have all the relevant tomtom folders on the SD Card - which includes your maps as per normal with your PDA.

    2nd copy the tomtom files from you pda program files and any files in mydocuments and the my flash folder on the pda to your pc ready for transfer onto the binatone carrera:

    on you binatone carrera under the Resident Flash folder, there is a MobileNavigator folder create these folders inside the MobileNavigator folder if they dont exist already.
    Files needed: tomtom
    contacts
    itn
    logging
    my flash disk
    TomTom
    Voices

    Also from you pc or pda copy these folder into the MobileNavigator folder (make sure they dont go into any other folder just directly under the MobileNavigator folder);

    Tomtom.exe
    tomtom navigator
    ttmobile
    navigator
    data
    CurrentMap

    Now rename the tomtom.exe to MobileNavigator.exe <-- like this

    Now copy the relevant files into the folders we put under the MobileNavigator folder:

    1. copy the file from the itn folder on your pda (temp file) into
    the itn folder under mobilenavigator
    2. copy the file ttmobile and ttnavigator from your pda flash into
    the my flash disk on the binatone under mobilenavigator folder.
    3. and in the tomtom folder under the MobileNavigator folder on the
    binatone there needs to be these files from you pda:

    TTToday
    GB_plus_major_roads_of_WE-65186fa1

    4. and now copy all your tomtom voices that you require from the pda
    to voices folder under the mobilenavigator folder on the binatone.

    Right now for the last bit - make a copy of the ttmobile file in the flash folder and drop it into the resident flash folder which shows the mbn and MobileNavigator folders.

    Dont worry about any of the gpspara files - just leave them alone they will keep coming back if you delete them because there on the embedded into the windows ce backup system.

    Right now re-boot your binatone hit the navigator and it should work.. sometimes you get the tomtom sign up and it doesnt work - you just power it off and on from the back - plug in the charger cable and reboot and hit the button again and it should come on.. thats how it works on mine anyway.

    I hope this helps give you the idea of how I did it, if not please except my apologies - the navigator can be reset with the folders you backed up.

    best regards
    and any questions let me know.


     
  11. XTC2

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    Apologies for bumping an old thread, but I thought I would add some more info here as (as far as Google is concerned anyway) this is the only place TomTom on a Binatone A350/X350 is mentioned. My experience installing TomTom 7 was a little different to mwaiter1's, so here are some alternate instructions:

    You will need:
    1) A Binatone Carrera A350/X350.
    2) A USB cable to connect it to your PC.
    3) Microsoft ActiveSync (free download from MS) or the equivalent for Vista.
    4) A version of TomTom Navigator that has been patched to work with PNAs - currently, 7.910 (9185) is the latest version.
    5) Software that can extract files from WinCE cab files - I used 'WinCE CAB Manager' from OCP.
    6) The PNA patch.
    7) A file called note_prj.dll - this was included in the PNA patch in my case.
    8) At least one map. The version of TomTom mentioned above will work with the current 815.xxxx version maps.
    9) The map/meta keygen.

    Instructions:
    Install ActiveSync, turn on your A350/X350 (no need to enter the navigation software) and connect it to your PC. In 'My Computer', go to 'Mobile Device' (this shows the files on the A350/X350) and open the ResidentFlash folder. As mentioned previously, it would be a very good idea to back up this folder to somewhere on your PC in case you need to revert to the Binatone software.

    After you have done so, delete everything in ResidentFlash.

    TomTom is typically distributed as a cab file, which is not directly usable on the A350/X350, so the files must be manually extracted. Open the cab file with WinCE CAB Manager, go to Cabinet->Files->Extract, and select a location to extract the files to.

    Go to where you extracted the files. Rename [INSTALLDIR] to MobileNavigator. Overwrite any files here with those from the PNA patch, or you will get a memory error when starting TomTom. Rename 'TomTom Navigator.exe' to MobileNavigator.exe. If note_prj.dll was not in the PNA patch files, copy this into the MobileNavigator folder as well - this allows TomTom to read maps on SD cards.

    Copy the MobileNavigator folder to your A350/X350, inside the ResidentFlash folder. You can also put the folder containing your map inside ResidentFlash as well if it is small enough (around 180MB), or if not you must write this to an SD card and insert it into the A350/X350. When you extracted TomTom using CAB Manager there may also have been files in a 'Windows' folder - copy these to the 'Windows' folder within 'Mobile Device' in 'My Computer'. You can delete the 'TomTom' folder that has 'TTToday' inside it, this is not required.

    Now disconnect the A350/X350, turn it off using the switch at the back, and turn it back on again. Select 'Navigation' from the main screen, and TomTom should start. You may be asked some set up questions such as language. Eventually, you should see an error message saying the map has not been activated. Turn off the A350/X350 again, turn it back on, and then reconnect it to the PC.

    Within ResidentFlash (and on the SD card, if you are using one) will now be a file called ttnavigator.bif. If you open this with Notepad, you will find a 10 digit 'DeviceUniqueID' mentioned - this is the code you need for the map/meta key generator.

    The keygen should come with its own instructions; if you are using an 815.xxxx map be sure to select the navcore 8 option when generating the key file (.dct). When generated, copy this to the map folder. You will also need to generate .dct files for the speed camera add on if you have it, and also place these in the map folder.

    Finally, if you are in the UK or the Netherlands you will want to download the postal code fix from TomTom. If not installed automatically, these files should be placed inside a folder called 'zip' in the ResidentFlash folder on your A350/X350.

    Disconnect your A350/X350 from the PC, and select 'Navigation' from the main screen to start TomTom. It should start successfully this time.

    In the left panel it may say 'No GPS device'. If so, go to the menu (tap on the map) and go to 'Change preferences', tap on the right arrow a few times and when it appears go to 'Show GPS status'. Tap 'configure', select 'Other NMEA GPS receiver' and set the baud rate to maximum (115200), and tap on 'COM7' then 'done'. After a little while, TomTom should find your location.

    All done :)
    Hope these instructions were helpful to someone. If you want to use TomTom Home, you must unfortunately use the old 1.5x version as the 2.x versions do not seem to recognise non-TomTom devices.
     
  12. Canon1bb

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    Hi, I have a Binatone A350 Europe but recently it had a fatal crash . Now it's not holding the memory when ever I want to use it I have to input all the information ove an over.
     
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    I´ve tried to put tomtom on the x350, but directly in the ResidentFlash dir. It´s completely gone now, made a backup first before starting, but a bad one. Does anybody know where to get the files back, that belongs in this dir ?
     
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    Thank you -XTC2- , I allready thought mine X350 was dead but your help it works again with tomtom on it. Thnx.
     
  15. england98

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    First of all, many thanks to XTC2.

    Here is the problem. I've got A350 and successfully installed Tomtom navigator 7 but my 1gb micro SD cards seem not to work. Only the one came with is fine.

    Anybody tried a micro SD card? or any ideas?

    Thanks in advance.

    Dan
     
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  16. XTC2

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    Hi england98, as mentioned above make sure the SD card is formatted with FAT, not NTFS. I have a cheap, generic 1 GB card working, and another cheap 2 GB card that worked fine before as well.

    It's worth noting that the UK map will fit on the internal memory anyway, so no need to use an SD card for that map. I have that one on my internal memory, and western europe on SD.

    I'm not sure, but with at least some WinCE devices (like the Binatone), the battery hit from using an SD card can be quite large, so I prefer to only use the SD when I have to.
     
  17. england98

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    Hi XTC2,

    My A350 only has 38kb left for ResidentFlash folder and 1MB for internal memory. I've checked with Tomtom home 1.5 and the internal memory has some folders and I have post code fix in zip folder which is 9MB. I don't know what is taking so much space but I don't want to touch the internal files in case all the syetem breaks down.

    Maybe, my A350 is originally WE 1GB one and SD card came with it, so UK&ROI binatone software is still within the internal memory ?? I have no idea about binatone software.

    Anyway, I tried to use 1GB micro SD with adapter with no luck. I tried everything but it doesn't seem to work. Do you think a normal SD card only will work not micro SD?

    I just got a comfirmation from Tomtom that UK maps in WE 1GB is the same as UK&ROI maps.
     
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  18. peds54

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    Hi I dont know if you still around But I have a Binatone Carrera A350 sat nav where can I get a full version of A version of TomTom Navigator that has been patched to work with PNAs - currently, 7.910 (9185) is the latest version whats a PNAs

    Also I can access all on my sat nav useing Microsoft Active Sync would you know how to add more POI also where would they be located on sat nav
     
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  19. blzert

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    ^^^Thanks so much, I finally got my A350 loaded up with TT :)

    Note: I had to use the Win CE 4.2 version of TT that is on various forums. With the other versions (I assume CE 5.0) I kept getting memory errors.

    http://www.gpsunderground.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2524

    I still get them now and then but rebooting the binatone fixes it ;)
     
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  20. peds54

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    Hi can you help me to put tom tom on my Binatone A350 sat nav as I cant understand all this. Whats Wince also whats a PDA Or a PNA, plus how do I get hold of the Win CE 4.2 Version of TT
     

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