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Discussion in 'DVD±R for advanced users' started by sixfigure, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. sixfigure

    sixfigure Member

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    this is the error message I'm getting



    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.68, size=160016 bytes, created 7/22/2004 5:33:44 PM
    Nero API version: 6.3.1.20
    Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
    Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
    Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
    Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S>Version: BS0Y - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.20
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : HDS728080PLAT20 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S D: CDRom0
    SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A E: CDRom1
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 40894464 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 254MB (260096kB)
    Free physical memory: 14MB (14692kB)
    Memory in use : 94 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    17.7.2007
    NeroAPI
    1:03:20 AM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    1:03:21 AM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    1:03:21 AM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273
    DVD-Video files sorted

    1:03:27 AM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 126
    Reader running

    1:03:27 AM #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
    Writer LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S running

    1:03:27 AM #6 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 817
    DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1)
    DRM: Beginning burn process.

    1:03:27 AM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    1:03:27 AM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    1:03:27 AM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3173
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    1:03:57 AM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 247
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2286143 (508:01.68, 4465MB)

    1:03:57 AM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
    Write in overburning mode: NO

    1:03:57 AM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2162
    Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: CMC MA - G. AM3
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    1:03:57 AM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 420
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================
    Insert empty disc to write to.
    (Medium in drive: unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R9 Double Layer.)

    1:03:57 AM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2286144 (2286144) = #2286144/508:1.69
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286144 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    1:03:57 AM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 984
    Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4682022912, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
    2286144 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

    1:03:57 AM #16 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273
    Caching of files started

    1:03:58 AM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4183
    Cache writing successful.

    1:03:58 AM #18 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273
    Caching of files completed

    1:03:58 AM #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273
    Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    1:03:58 AM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2344
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    1:03:58 AM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1942
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    1:03:58 AM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20513
    Set BUFE: supported -> ON , SMART-BURN : ON

    1:03:58 AM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2083
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    1:03:58 AM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8128
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    1:03:59 AM #25 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1442
    SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x01670000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
    Sense Code: 0x30
    Sense Qual: 0x05
    CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

    1:03:59 AM #26 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 304
    Illegal disc

    1:03:59 AM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    1:03:59 AM #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
    conversion idle, stopping reader

    1:03:59 AM #29 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2325
    EndDAO: Last written address was -1

    1:03:59 AM #30 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 273
    Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    1:03:59 AM #31 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 828
    DRM: DRM burn session terminated.

    1:03:59 AM #32 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 857
    DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye.


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=8.0.0.212 , size=2560 bytes, created 10/3/2006 12:21:46 PM
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=3.00.33a, size=36528 bytes, created 10/3/2006 12:21:48 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
     
  2. IHoe

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    your version of Nero 6 is not the stablest version.... 6.6.0.18 is the most stablest version of Nero 6 and I would update it to that version. Here's how:

    Before udating to 6.6.0.18 I would save the serial #, uninstall Nero, then use the cleaning tools : http://ww2.nero.com/nero6/eng/Clean_Tools.html
    then do a registry clean up(free registry cleaner, CClean: http://www.ccleaner.com/download/downloadpage.aspx?1) and defrag...... then reboot!

    install package one:
    http://www.filehippo.com/download_nero_burning_rom/?539

    then install package two:
    http://www.nero.com/nero6/eng/Patch_for_NVE3.html
    reboot and you're good to go!

    also I would use better media. Stick with the MIJ rule (Made In Japan). Look for the MIJ on the label of the box of spindle (Taiyo Yuden, Sony, Maxell, and some Fuji)... the only exception to this rule is Verbatim, which is top notch media but made in Taiwan/Singapore and the only non MIJs I will use.

    you need more memory! 256 RAM is way too small ....... do not multi task, no internet, shut off all unnecessary programs running in the background...... even shut down your anti virus program! An upgrade in RAM would be nice, too!

    you are burning too close to the edge of your disk...... which is CMC MAGs..... that's crappy media, in my opinion! Use better media and then maybe you can burn to 4465...... but I don't recommend it! you could get reading errors! burn no closer than 4400...... some members recommend up to 4300MB!
    this is a Roxio/Sonic file and Roxio/Sonic doesn't mix well with Nero! Uninstall Roxio/Sonic and use the Zapper: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/Roxio-Zap.shtml

    good luck.

     
  3. sixfigure

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    I keep getting this message, and I done everything what to do now I haven't use new media could that be the problem

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM
    Nero API version: 6.6.0.18
    Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
    Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
    Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
    Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e

    Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S>Version: BS0Y - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : HDS728080PLAT20 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S D: CDRom0
    SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A E: CDRom1
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 40894464 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 254MB (260096kB)
    Free physical memory: 72MB (74624kB)
    Memory in use : 71 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    23.7.2007
    NeroAPI
    8:26:19 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    8:26:20 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    8:26:21 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    DVD-Video files sorted

    8:27:11 PM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    8:27:11 PM #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S running

    8:27:11 PM #6 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 842
    DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1)
    DRM: Beginning burn process.

    8:27:11 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    8:27:11 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    8:27:12 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    8:27:12 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2286127 (508:01.52, 4465MB)

    8:27:12 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
    Write in overburning mode: NO

    8:27:12 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
    Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: CMC MA - G. AM3
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    8:27:12 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    8:27:12 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2286128 (2286128) = #2286128/508:1.53
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286128 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    8:27:12 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
    Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681990144, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2286128 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    8:27:12 PM #16 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Caching of files started

    8:27:12 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122
    Cache writing successful.

    8:27:12 PM #18 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Caching of files completed

    8:27:12 PM #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    8:27:12 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    8:27:12 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2571
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    8:27:12 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21774
    Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON , SMART-BURN : ON

    8:27:12 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2726
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    8:27:12 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8892
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    8:27:14 PM #25 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436
    SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x00D00000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
    Sense Code: 0x30
    Sense Qual: 0x05
    CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

    8:27:14 PM #26 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
    Illegal disc

    8:27:14 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    8:27:14 PM #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
    conversion idle, stopping reader

    8:27:14 PM #29 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2969
    EndDAO: Last written address was -1

    8:27:14 PM #30 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    8:27:14 PM #31 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 867
    DRM: DRM burn session terminated.

    8:27:14 PM #32 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 896
    DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye.


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=8.0.0.212 , size=2560 bytes, created 10/3/2006 12:21:46 PM
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=3.00.33a, size=36528 bytes, created 10/3/2006 12:21:48 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

     
  4. IHoe

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    you're still using and old interface..... you might have gone to 6.6.0.18 but you didn't use the Nero 6 cleaner before you re installed Nero 6.6.0.18! you should do it again!!!!

    Before udating to 6.6.0.18 I would save the serial #, uninstall Nero, then use the cleaning tools : http://ww2.nero.com/nero6/eng/Clean_Tools.html
    then do a registry clean up(free registry cleaner, CClean: http://www.ccleaner.com/download/downloadpage.aspx?1) and defrag...... then reboot!

    install package one:
    http://www.filehippo.com/download_nero_burning_rom/?539

    then install package two:
    http://www.nero.com/nero6/eng/Patch_for_NVE3.html
    reboot and you're good to go!

    CMC MAG disks... like Memorex and others.... are not the best of media to use! Get better media....use Taiyo Yuden disks.... these are made in Japan and are top notch quality and are most recognized by burners and will increase your chances of a successful burn. You can find them online at supermediastore.com, meritline.com, rima.com, newegg.com and other online stores..... or just buy Verbatim, as these are also top notch disks but not made in Japan!

    check out your burner here: http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters...&hddvdrom=&orderby=Name&hits=50&Search=Search
    your firmware is up to date but I wouldn't buy much 16x media as it's not as compatible with older burners even with a firmware update. Stick with 8x media.

    you are at the minimum of RAM for this program! shut off all unnecessary programs running in the background, NO multi tasking, NO internet, and even shut off your anti virus program!!!! If you can add more RAM all the better! How old is your computer?

    Nero and your drive doesn't like your disk!

    with your disk that Nero and your Drive doesn't like.... you are burning too close to the outer edge of the disk!!! burn no closer than 4400MB!

    it's obvious that you did not do EVERYTHING that I suggestedas you still didn't adjust the burn to 4400MB, that you still are using too much memory, and you still didn't take out the Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS file as I suggested in my first reply...... if you can't make these changes then expect more failures! soooo I am repeating my first suggestions:
    I'm sorry.... but if you asked for help and you can't follow all the suggestions ..... what makes you think that Nero will work for you? And I don't mean to be harsh at all.... I'm just commenting and I respect you. Asking for help is the first step to having success!



     
  5. sixfigure

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    I did everthing accept the memory and I use better media and when I ran my burner I didn't have anything going

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM
    Nero API version: 6.6.0.18
    Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
    Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
    Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
    Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e

    Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S>Version: BS0Y - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : HDS728080PLAT20 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S D: CDRom0
    SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A E: CDRom1
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 40894464 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 254MB (260096kB)
    Free physical memory: 58MB (60212kB)
    Memory in use : 76 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    16.8.2007
    NeroAPI
    10:44:35 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    10:44:36 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    10:44:36 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    DVD-Video files sorted

    10:44:38 PM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    10:44:38 PM #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S running

    10:44:38 PM #6 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 842
    DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1)
    DRM: Beginning burn process.

    10:44:38 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    10:44:38 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    10:44:39 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    10:45:30 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2286143 (508:01.68, 4465MB)

    10:45:30 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
    Write in overburning mode: NO

    10:45:30 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
    Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: Prodis - cF02
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    10:45:30 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================
    Insert empty disc to write to.
    (Medium in drive: unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R DL.)

    10:45:30 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2286144 (2286144) = #2286144/508:1.69
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286144 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    10:45:30 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
    Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4682022912, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2286144 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    10:45:30 PM #16 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Caching of files started

    10:45:30 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122
    Cache writing successful.

    10:45:30 PM #18 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Caching of files completed

    10:45:30 PM #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    10:45:30 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    10:45:30 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2571
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode for Multisession

    10:45:30 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21774
    Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON , SMART-BURN : ON

    10:45:30 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2726
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: No

    10:45:30 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8892
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    10:45:33 PM #25 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436
    SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x01570000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
    Sense Code: 0x30
    Sense Qual: 0x05
    CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

    10:45:33 PM #26 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
    Illegal disc

    10:45:33 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    10:45:33 PM #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
    conversion idle, stopping reader

    10:45:33 PM #29 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2969
    EndDAO: Last written address was -1

    10:45:33 PM #30 Phase 133 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Writing short lead-out

    10:45:33 PM #31 SCSI -1176 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
    SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x72
    Sense Qual: 0x04
    CDB Data: 0x5B 0x01 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x72 0x04

    10:45:33 PM #32 CDR -1176 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
    Session fixation error

    10:45:33 PM #33 TRANSFER -24 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
    Could not perform end of Disc-at-once

    10:45:33 PM #34 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    10:45:33 PM #35 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 867
    DRM: DRM burn session terminated.

    10:45:33 PM #36 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 896
    DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye.


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    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
     
  6. sixfigure

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    I just upgrade my memory and still getting this message

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM
    Nero API version: 6.6.0.18
    Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
    Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
    Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
    Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e

    Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S>Version: BS0Y - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : HDS728080PLAT20 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S D: CDRom0
    SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A E: CDRom1
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 1278MB (1308672kB)
    Free physical memory: 816MB (836364kB)
    Memory in use : 36 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    20.8.2007
    NeroAPI
    5:51:32 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    5:51:32 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    5:51:32 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    DVD-Video files sorted

    5:51:32 PM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    5:51:32 PM #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S running

    5:51:32 PM #6 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 842
    DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1)
    DRM: Beginning burn process.

    5:51:33 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    5:51:33 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    5:51:33 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    5:52:42 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2286143 (508:01.68, 4465MB)

    5:52:42 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
    Write in overburning mode: NO

    5:52:42 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
    Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: Prodis - cF02
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    5:52:42 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================
    Insert empty disc to write to.
    (Medium in drive: unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R DL.)

    5:52:42 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2286144 (2286144) = #2286144/508:1.69
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286144 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    5:52:42 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
    Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4682022912, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2286144 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    5:52:42 PM #16 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Caching of files started

    5:52:42 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122
    Cache writing successful.

    5:52:42 PM #18 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Caching of files completed

    5:52:42 PM #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    5:52:42 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    5:52:42 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2571
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode for Multisession

    5:52:42 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21774
    Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON , SMART-BURN : ON

    5:52:42 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2726
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: No

    5:52:42 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8892
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    5:52:45 PM #25 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436
    SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x00D00000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
    Sense Code: 0x30
    Sense Qual: 0x05
    CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

    5:52:45 PM #26 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
    Illegal disc

    5:52:45 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    5:52:45 PM #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
    conversion idle, stopping reader

    5:52:46 PM #29 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2969
    EndDAO: Last written address was -1

    5:52:46 PM #30 Phase 133 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Writing short lead-out

    5:52:46 PM #31 SCSI -1176 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
    SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x72
    Sense Qual: 0x04
    CDB Data: 0x5B 0x01 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x72 0x04

    5:52:46 PM #32 CDR -1176 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
    Session fixation error

    5:52:46 PM #33 TRANSFER -24 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
    Could not perform end of Disc-at-once

    5:52:46 PM #34 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
    Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

    5:52:46 PM #35 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 867
    DRM: DRM burn session terminated.

    5:52:46 PM #36 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 896
    DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye.


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=3.00.33a, size=36528 bytes, created 10/3/2006 12:21:48 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
     
  7. LOCOENG

    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    Still haven't remedied the problem with the old version....follow all the steps involved, including rebooting between steps.

    You went from CMC Mag to Prodisc...not much difference when quality of media is concerned.

    As IHOE suggested your drive may have outlived it's usefulness...with no firmware updates available and older media hard to find you may be forced to buying a new drive that will recognize the media that you are using. With that said your last shot would be to try Verbatim discs, which have an extremely high compatability rate and may give you a successful burn after all.

    This error means that you are asking your burner to do something that is can't comprehend...firmware or media could fix this and as a last ditch effort a new drive.

    Good luck
     
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    Hi,

    Burn those at x2.0

    or 2 minutes in the Microwave and enjoy the show.

    Hey, at least they will be worth enjoying !

    Get 1st class quality media (Verbatims, Taiyo Yuden)

    http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm



     
  9. JoeRyan

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    The media are not the problem. Members prefer Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim for compatibility reasons which they attribute to quality. The problem is that they denigrate any non-TY/Verbatim media without knowing anything about quality standards.

    Your Lite-on SOHW-1633 should work well with the CMC and Prodisc media you have tried as well as any Verbatim or TY media (except TY DVD+R 16X which were late to market and may not be supported well by your drive. In this case, too, it is a question of compatibility, not of quality.)

    "Illegal disc" messages are typical of compatibility conflicts between drive and medium, but not in this case because your drive does support the media you have tried. Since you have followed every suggestion about RAM memory and updating your version of Nero, one last thing you can check is the jumper settings on the back of your drives. Even if you have a cable select system, try setting the jumper on the Lite-on to MASTER and moving in your system so that it is on the end of the IDE cable. Set the jumper on the Samsung to SLAVE and put it on the middle connector of the IDE cable. Reboot; disable both drives in Device Manager, then reinstall them so that the computer refreshes the drivers. Then try once more. If that does not work, the problem may lie in the drive. It certainly does not lie in the media, and your problems with Verbatim are evidence that the discs are not at fault.
     
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    Joe, I'm by no means trying to make out about what you said RE conflict with drive and medium is wrong, as I understand that is correct, but you surely can't argue that CMC or Prodisc manufacture their discs to the same quality as Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim? After all, there is a big difference in the quality of the dyes used, is there not?

    sixfigure, have you tried updating your firmware?

    Here is the latest version if you haven't already..
    http://www.liteonit.com/DOWNLOADS/ODD/SOHW-1633S/firmware/DR16BS0Y.zip

    Make sure when you attempt to flash your drive there is no media in the drive and you have nothing else running.
     
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    CMC uses azo-cyanine (the MKK azo-cyanine dye they use for their production of Verbatim discs) from at least one other source as well as cyanine. The major brands who source from CMC specify azo-cyanine.

    Prodisc uses azo-cyanine and Fuji's Oxonol. Oxonol appears to be superior to other dyes in terms of long-term environmental stability.

    CMC's production of DVD media is to the same standard throughout the factory. although certain production lines may give them more trouble than other lines. Having multiple lines from different manufacturers is more difficult than having multiple lines from a single supplier because the settings and resolution of problems varies between manufacturers. Verbatim media are made on a specified line with MKK azo-cyanine dye. That helps a great deal. CMC's major problem is being the largest producer in the world and having manufacturing lines from multiple sources. Taiyo Yuden is a much smaller producer, but their manufacturing costs are so high that they have had to cut out the middlemen in order to keep selling. Smaller production on uniform lines does offer some advantages, but cost of production is not one of them.

    Except for cyanine dyes, there is little difference in the dye qualities except for Oxonol's advantages of environmental stability (and lower cost but with the disadvantage of requiring slightly higher power). The biggest difference is firmware support of the M-codes followed by differences in manufacturing processes, including packaging. A well made disc can be damaged with improper packaging or improper handling by untrained workers. The newest workers in packaging are generally assigned to CD-Rs, not to DVDs; but there are slip ups now and then.
     
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    What's your personal choice of media then? Brand wise.
     
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    He has no personal preference Ripper, all the media in the world is manufactured to the same specs and supplied by the same company...they just ship 'em where ever and put different labels on all of them. High compatability and success rates mean nothing becuase all of Joe's personal equipment readily plays any and everything he throws at them, short of a cheese pizza.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again...until Memorex, Prodisc, Ritek etc. can produce the same high level results that Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden do I will continue to "push" those brands. If someone can use the latter (I can BTW and have a half spindle of CMC Memorex sitting on my desk) I don't discourage their use until a problem arises and all other avenues to rectify the bad results have been acted on.
     
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    I was wondering where my reply had gone. Cat got your tounge Joe?

     
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    I just want to add....... I will continue to recommend DigitalFAQs' Blank Media Guide until some one else does a better job at a blank media guide then I'll recommend their guide. Just another thing that Joe bothers me about. No offense Joe.
     
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    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    I love a good technical debate...
     
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    Not as much as you love a Maths Debate, eh Scott! LOL
     
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    I have no personal preference, although I like the test results from the Oxonol dyes used by Prodisc for their long-term stability. LOCOENG is correct about my lack of preference. I have over 100 different drives with different states of firmware, and each stack of disc samples I have has the drive test results on it. If I need to record a disc, I can take just about any disc I have and record it on a particular drive with excellent results. That is a luxury most people do not have. I avoid Umedisc because I found poor interchange results (that's what CATs is for), and I have to be particular about MBI because of limited compatibility. Other than that, I have no problems. I avoid all "no-name" discs because I have found that they often tend to be B-grade or discs from unlicensed factories.

    I do check all recorded discs under a halogen light to detect any physical flaws. Two years ago CMC had problems with dye comets, perhaps due to poor cleanliness or agglomerattes in the piping systems. That happens far less often these days. The only discs that have gone bad on me in the past were a Princo and a Taiyo Yuden.

    All discs are actually made to the same standards presented by the DVD Forum or the DVD+RW Alliance. What differs are the tolerances, the standard deviations, and the weighting of the over 80 different test specifications (improving one often reduces another). Some factories are better at that than others. Processes differ in all of them, and as I said before, it is the process that will make the greatest difference in the final result. The sarcastic response seemed to have overlooked this detail.

    Half of what digitalfaq states is correct. Half is nonsense. If a reader is knowledgeable about which half is which, it may be useful reading. For technical people, it is a source of humor. A better guide would list the M-codes, the drive models and firmware, and have independent test results done on a calibrated drive such as a Pulstech. That is very expensive and time consuming. An environmental test, for example, takes 10 months to complete. Results from such testing are the only valid way to accurately determine what is good and what is not. "It works/doesn't work" is insufficient a means of testing quality although it may be useful for determining compatibility. I see so many cases, such as the one initiating this thread, that indicate the source of the problem has nothing to do with the medium; but that does not prevent people from jumping to preferred conclusions. Switching from TDK to Verbatim will not solve a customer's problem if his or her computer is not plugged in. What happens so often is that the recommendation is to avoid a certain brand and make other changes, such as plugging the computer into the mains. The the user plugs in and turns on the computer, successfully records onto a Verbatim medium, and has PROOF that Verbatim is better than TDK or some other brand! When he tried TDK, the computer would not even turn on. Those kinds of arguments often show up here.
     
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    I agree with your argument completely Joe, but most of the new members here aren't interested in the technojargon and are just looking for something that works and works NOW. Additionally, these same people don't have hundreds of drives and hundreds of different brands of media at their fingertips to test for various success rates. In a lot of cases they have an OEM drive that came preinstalled in their tower that is seeing little or no support through firmware updates...that typically just makes things worse. This is why most members here turn to the brands that have a wider compatibility range such as Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden. I proudly refer users to these brands I am not affiliated with either nor do I work for either. In other words it doesn't benefit me in any way make these suggestions...but sometimes I wonder if you work for CMC Magnetics or Memorex, simply because you seem more than willing to come to the rescue when someone makes a suggestion of using Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden. I sometimes feel like I'm being followed around the forum and being drawn into these exchanges. Tell me this, when would you go so far to suggest a different brand of media? We can use this thread for now...so what would have this poster do to remedy his problems? I will gladly step aside and let you have the floor to actually make a contribution that will help the OP rather than confuse him by discrediting the advise of media.
     

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