well my dvd burner didnt burn the disc right cause i couldnt play them in my apex which plays -Rs. i thought it was my burner so i tried a different burner and the same thing happens the burnt disc says "no disc" when i put it in my apex so this leads me to believe its the software. right now im using dvd shrink 3.2 and dvd decrypter and tried both nero and roxio to burn them. the dvds play on my ps2 and my pc but not my apex. the dvds my friend bunrt for me worked on my apex and everything with no problems. 1st burner used was an I/O magic and second is a lite-on. 1st i use dvd decrypter then i open the files using shrink and compress the files. then i use either nero or roxio and get the same results. what could the problem be? both drives were new, both programs are the newest version, tried using both memorex dvd-r and sony dvd-r.