(This is a repost of a message I wrote to the old thread. That thread died off on me.) I've had a similar problem. Can't rip Butterfly Effect due to read errors. Shrink can't complete the initial analysis due to read errors. DVD Decrypter finds read errors in key files. I've tried 3 different copies--all do the same thing. I can watch the movie, but can't rip it. The best I've been able to do is use DVD Decrypter to rip 4 of the 5 .VOB files that make up the theatrical version. The fifth .vob file has nothing but credits, so I don't really need it. All 3 disks that I've tried were 2 sided rather than the 2 disk set. I need to find an easy way to make a DVD out of them that will play on a set-top DVD player. I have Nero 6, Pinnacle Instant CD/DVD Version 8, DVD Shrink 3.2, and DVD Decrypter 184.108.40.206 installed as well as other DVD copying/authoring titles that are not installed. Any suggestions would be appreciated.