I had no problem with AnyDVD loading with the DVD. As I said, but maybe not clearly, I needed to edit problem titles, to get CloneDVD 2 to process the files. I wasn't the only one. In fact there are a number of posts with the info on which titles to unselect in CloneDVD 2 so the DVD would record properly. I wasn't the only one who enjoyed the situation. Slysoft had been busy with AnyHD but took time to address the problem. Note around the time of Saw 3 there was a flurry of betas and finally a new release. AnyDVD History 22.214.171.124 2007 01 28 - Fix: With some DVDs having VOB files with zero length, fluxDVD protection was incorrectly detected 126.96.36.199 2007 01 26 - New: Added support for new versions of the SONY Arccos protection to the option to remove "Protection based on unreadable Sectors" - New: Added workaround for some drives (e.g. TSSTCORP DVD-ROM SH-D162C) where disc insertion was not always correctly detected by AnyDVD and decryption would not work. - New: Added UDF 2.5 support to the UDF parser. - New: AnyDVD status window shows larger volume names - New: Recognizes HD-DVD video discs and correctly displays HD-DVD volume names - Change: Increased the number of possible errors on one disc - Change: Increased the number of possible sector and file replacements on one disc - Fix: Removing Sony Arccos at the end of a title did sometimes caused a "Navigation Pack error" or could cause the title to disappear completely in elby CloneDVD. - Fix: Short titles with read errors (Arccos) at the end of the file were not handled correctly (e.g., special features in "Mirrormask", Germany) - Fix: Bug introduced in 188.8.131.52, disc recognition did not work correctly - Fix: Bug introduced in 184.108.40.206, driver could switch into safe mode without reason - Some minor fixes and improvements If you noticed, both updates had aspects of the Saw 3 copy protection, newer Arccoss, and 0 length VOBs.