Hi, I'm trying to play a patched cd-r rip of Winning Eleven 8 using the swap method. The games looks like it's going to load, but all I get is a black screen. The cd does spin but nothing loads. I followed the instuctions to rip the dvd to cd, so I should work. I've tried cogswaploader and cdloader v7+ but both give me the same problem. Maybe it's a problem with TOC refresh? I don't know, I'm new to all this. Also, most guides say to load with a ps2 dvd, but I assume that since it's a cd, you should use a psx cd? Thanks.