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Coaster King needs help!

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by skydog, May 5, 2004.

  1. ScubaPete

    ScubaPete Senior member

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    Hey errordog, can the "Old Man" join your Club ?? I promise to read all the rules first - can I, Huh ? Can I ?


    mlheands, You're spot on with that, and I wanted to Welcome you to our little Club -
    cheers,

    Pete


    burning2, Funny you should say that, I was just backing up "Beyond Re-animator" and got the same error. I clicked "Ignore" and allowed DVD Decrypter to continue and upon completion attempted to play it in my standalone, it worked flawlessly. Go Figure, I'm trying to track it down now -



    Sorry but it doesn't work that way - if it's too big, you lose the whole thing. What you have to do is put it in something like DVD Shrink and compress it until it's smaller that 4.36GB and then burn it with DVD Decrypter.
    burning2, just because you've gotten rid of the "Red" doesn't mean it's the perfect size, you need to go a bit farther. What I always like to see is a bit of "Gray" at the end of my Green size bar.
    In DVD Shrink I go to "Edit", "Preferences", "Target DVD size" then choose "Custom" in the pull down bar then my personal setting is 4279MB. Why that number ? No reason except I've got my little bit of Gray at the end of my Green bar and I've never had a problem with it.


    Easy, just go to Re-Author in DVD Shrink and pull just the main movie from the right side to the left side of the screen. Then choose "Backup".


    When all else is set properly you have to look at your media - it is a major issue -
    Some like cm42066 are having no problems and so should keep doing what they're doing - if and when he sees problems, he should look at his media then but you might want to consider it now. You say you're using Memorex -
    Memorex is a good example as media goes, figures as high as 50% coasters have been reported (One member bought a stack of 50 and got 23 good burns.), not what I would call an impressive record.

    1. * Cheap media freezes, skips, stutters, pixelats, partially jams, may be rejected and lest we forget, our old standby, giving you the old just refuses to be recognized routine :-(

    Besides "Freezing", "skips" and pixelations, many times you'll get a "Cyclic Redundancy error" or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won't accept your "cheap" media :-(
    Another problem which "pop's up" is a "*Power Calibration Error". This can stop you right in your tracks and most often is caused by, Yep, you guessed it, inexpensive media.
    *A "Power Calibration Error" can also be attributed to the Optical Components of a DVD Writer, though this isn't usually the case. Trying to shut down your software and ejecting your DVD then restarting your program and re-inserting the same media recently cleaned has been known to help.

    Inexpensive media or even average media is great for text, Data, Spreadsheets, .Jpg and .Gif pictures and is good even for MP3 music BUT for DVD backups - BLAaaaaaT! It SUCKTH in an extremely Big-th way !

    2. A good grade media is needed for DVD reproduction !
    "Branded" Ritek G04's or Branded Verbatim are what we're looking for OR any media boasting "Advanced AZO Metal Dye", this indicates a superior dye application, while they are sometimes a bit "pricey" they are acceptable.
    Prices online from Meritline.com have gotten Ritek G04 down below a dollar a disc -
    Question - If you make coasters out of 3 cheap or even average discs and good copies from 3 Branded Verbatim discs or 3 "Branded" Ritek G04 discs - which ones then will you say are too expensive ? The 3 "Cheapo's with no movie backup OR , the 3 recommended discs with a perfect backup on each disc ?

    Bear in mind, Memorex, Fuji, Sony, TDK, Orange Pack and others are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets, Data and your text backups and archives, they just don't work well for DVD backups. Even DataSafe G04's made by Ritek have been reported as inferior quality and are evoking that "Oh no, I shouldn't have gotten those.".
    Remember, for DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win, the majority of people lose, varying amounts but, they still lose :-(

    Let's try the right media for the job - just buy a 5 pack of what we recommend that will settle it once and for all - Don't cheat though, buy the EXACT media we recommended -

    Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty, it surely cannot hurt.

    cheers,
    Pete



    cm42066, Thank you for the kind words.

    BUT, I would like you to read the following, it concerns media mentioned above and your "No Name" -

    http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=513486

    And my observations, as the one thing I haven't addressed is the life of a backup made on an "el cheapo" disc. Points of fact, inferior discs have a tendency to "Break down" in time. I have had 25 to 30 backups that have refused to play after being stored for a year or more. I test all of my backups when they are burnt to be totally sure that there are no problems. "In olden times," before I knew any better, the Maxell and TDK discs (and any thing that was on sale) was what I used to use before I switched to Ritek and Verbatim, it is the cheap stuff that I have been experiencing trouble with. I noticed that backup DVD's I had been using refused to play in my standalone player and on my PC. VOB files wouldn't play either and other discs that I backed up about the same time would "Jam" part way through the movie. After switching to Verbatim and Ritek s, mostly the Ritek's because the price was right, I've not had 1 go "Flat" in almost 2 years. I still have some backups done on the cheap stuff and as time wears on I lose a few more as I attempt to check them. I say to you, why did a backup play fine in "01"and "02" then "fail" in "03 ?? Some that were done in "01" never made it till "02" and others done about the same time and "Failed" in "04"? All of the backups from "02" and "03", done on the "good Stuff" work fine today - not a single failure !

    As always, you have a choice -
    Pete



    and Lastly, Thank you John179, times 3 -
    (Lol)

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  2. michigan

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    Hey Pete I think you got a little carried away with the cut and paste your post is double long there buddy :) (A little late at night for ya is it?) You are still the man though!!!
     
  3. ScubaPete

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    Thanks michigan, I ran it through "Spellchjeck", guess it got "stuck" there - lol

     
  4. burning2

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    Thanks so much for your thorough response ScubaPete! I ended up doing it all over again, this time using an +RW (just to be safe) first and then put it on an +R, and had no problems. I also did a Deep Analysis in Shrink (which took double long) and chose the same settings as before and the size was just fine. That was weird. I will have to try the Re-Author feature to get rid of some extras if space is a problem next time. I'm already taking everything down to the lowest possible settings to leave more room for the main movie. Is there a way to see/view the extras prior to not including them? I figured if I expand the Extras and then click on the individual Titles I would be able to see something in the preview screen at the bottom left, but no luck. Can I just assume that the Extras all really just EXTRAS, as in nothing that has to do with the Main Movie, as in all the Commentaries or the Behind the Scenes stuff?

    Thanks again Uncle!
     
  5. ScubaPete

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    burning2,

    What you do is move the "Extras" over to the left THEN preview them - if you want them, leave them alone, if you wish to get rid of them, highlight them and hit your "Delete Button" and "Puuff" they're gone - it works like magic :D)

    and to answer your question, "YES" the "Extras" are really "Extras."

    It sounds like you are well on your way - "Go, you little Burning Fool, Go !"

    (Heh, heh, another Newbie is well on his road to success :)

    BTW my little Buddy, it's people like you who make this site work too - You've seen how we work and you see we have fun doing it -

    Now it's your turn, stop back when you're free and help someone else - they'll appreciate it and it will make you feel better :)

    You can then Welcome them into the Club :D

    We hope to see you around when you're not having problems to solve -

    You'll find us over there, by the water cooler, chewing the fat and trying to help the next Newbie with the weight of the burning world upon their shoulders -

    We'll be looking for you -

    Cheers,

    Pete
     
  6. pieman

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    agreed with michigan.Close down everything especially an active a/v program.even buggering around with word can have an effect.I was having grief with nero,,,great for cd, crap for dvd whatever media i used.If you can get clone dvd2 try it.Hasnt whinged at me since i started using it...seems much more stable than nero but hey, others swear by it.Try em all using a rw and find one that works for you.Everyone who burns will have a different config on thier pc, so there must be some conflicts.My process of burning might not suit another, and it took me a while to get it right.Stick with the advice from the addicts and you wont go wrong.They helped me out no end. best of luck!!
     

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