Hello, Does anyone know how to get around these issues: 1) Icons on my desktop for no apparent reason just rearrange themselves every now and then, sometimes one or two disappear also! This has pretty much always happened with xp I think and maybe even versions of windows before xp, happens to others too that I've talked to. I do not have auto arrange on for the icons on the desktop and anyway they are not auto arranging when they move about, I do have allign to grid on. Why does it do this? 2) I have sygate firewall installed (v5.6, dunno how it got upgraded to 5.6 when I specifically installed 5.5 because I wanted to avoid version 5.6, anyway...) and all of a sudden today without making any changes that I know of, windows security centre starts telling me that sygate is not on when it is. I have tested that it is working and everything. I use sygate because I like the way it can be configured with advanced rules much better than zonealarm and I think it uses less resources and causes less conflicts. However sygate is getting a bit weird now with all the "blocked NDIS" stuff, and refusing to acknowledge when I use the check boxes "check this box if you don't want to recieve notifications about this event in future". Also sygate has mad problem with drwatson32 on startup, if you don't have a network connection enabled when you start the pc drwatson goes mental and you have to shut them both down. I have always liked sygate but now I'm getting a bit sick of it, anyone got any suggestions? Another firewall?