ok, I read as much as I could from this forum and I'm not sure what I'm missing. Hopefully someone can help. -Downloaded a bin file. -Created a cue file for it. -Mounted the bin file with Alcohol. -Scanned it with Clony---see's it as "unknown". -Installed latest ASPI files. -CLony still see's it as "unknown". -Burned image with Alcohol using: customized DAO/SAO securomNEW-RAW/DAO securom-RAW/DAO -Burned bin with nero -created ISO with winiso -burned iso All burns fail at the same place. All burned at 4x Sometimes it hangs, other times it's a component transfer failure. The bin file is a game. I could keep trying different copy protections under alcohol, but I'm not sure I'm barking up the right tree, so I'm not sure what else to try. Is it possible it's the download? Thanks.