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Denon help / Gerry are u still alive?

Discussion in 'Receivers and amplifiers' started by dukhnt, Jun 28, 2007.

  1. dukhnt

    dukhnt Member

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    Hi Gerry and JVC....I hope you guys are still around. It didnt look like you guys check the DVD posts much, but I am in need of a new player to go with a Denon 2807 which I plan to get soon. I dont want to throw out 300 dollars and get something that isnt a good match with the 2807. Sorry Gerry, I lost your email after a computer change. If you still have mine, drop me a line, I would love to hear from you. I am thinking the Denon 1930CI or the 757. Yes? No?
     
  2. gerry1

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    Hi Donut!! How have you been? Yes, I'm still alive though I suppose some would argue the point lol! I will look up the DVD player(s) you mentioned as soon as I have a moment. There are a few things I'd like to point out also; will get back to you as soon as I can. Nice to see you again ... Gerry

     
  3. JVC

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    Look at these also: http://www.oppodigital.com/
    Everyone that has one, loves it. I don't think they can be beat, for the money.
    Don't you have an Oppo, gerry? :eek:)

    My next one will be one of these, or a Blu ray player, when I get an HDTV.
     
  4. gerry1

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    Hi dukhnt! I looked up both DVD players you mentioned and they're both excellent machines. They both upconvert to 1080p (I'm assuming that means it will also upconvert to 1080i but I'll have to double check). What make and model TV do you have? Both of them also have the six RCA outputs for 5.1 (there are digital coax and/or optical even on the cheapies but not all have the six RCA 5.1 outputs which is important and which I'll explain later). They both have super audio and DCDi Faroudja. They're both awesome machines.

    JVC gave you a link to Oppo (JVC, you're right, I do use an Oppo). Oppo has all the same features and would cost $100-$130 less. I think the big difference between the Denon and the Oppo is one of construction. I'm sure the Denon is heftier and more solidly built. I use my oppo all the time and I've never had a single problem and I've get to run into a DVD it wouldn't play but, while I've never had any problems, it could be a more solid construction but the picture and sound are awesome. It may well be more solid now, my oppo is last year's model. If paying $100 less is important, then go with the oppo; again, the only difference I can see between the two is that the construction on the Denon is probably more solid but the pic and sound will be equally good.

    I don't have JVC's confidence in Blu Ray ... don't get me wrong, the pic is awesome but there are two entirely different hi def technologies fighting for dominance. While blu ray looks like its going to be the winner, I think its too early to tell. It rather reminds me of the war between VHS and Beta a long time ago in which, as you know, VHS won and Beta became obsolete practically overnight. (Strange as it sounds, VHS won the war because of the porn industry LOL! Different elements of the porn industry got together and announced that they wouldn't continue to produce their movies in both VHS and Beta but VHS only and it was enough to send Beta packing. Recently, Blockbuster announced that the only hi def DVDs they will carry is Blu Ray...I don't know if that's enough to throw HD DVD out of the picture.) What do you think, JVC??
     
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    I think they're both gonna be around, for awhile, as with dvd-a and sacd. Neither one of them actually won the war.

    They've started building the universal players, to play both formats. It's good to have more than one. It creates competition, which means better prices, and better equipment. I would prefer a universal player, but if I had to choose one, I'd choose Blu ray. I like the titles better, that are on Blu ray movies.
     
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    Thanks guys so much for all the help so far. From what I can tell both of these models of Denon's are exactly the same as far as functions and such. If it makes much difference I currently have a Sony KDF-E60A20 60" HDTV
     
  7. gerry1

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    Howdy guys! Dukhnt, I have the 42" (or os it 46"?) version of the same TV; great pic on it! Your TV is 1080i. Both Denon DVD players you mentioned are selectable so you can choose 1080i (or 720p) from its menu for the proper signal for your Sony. Oppo seems to make a seperate model for both:

    http://www.oppodigital.com

    A note about audio and "5.1". The expression "5.1" surround has come to mean all sorts of different things which can get confusing. All DVD players will have a digital sound source which is the optical (toslink) cable and/or the digital coax cable. All of them will also have the usual two analog (L&R - red and white) RCA plugs. The Denons, the Oppos and other better quality DVD players will also have the six RCA plugs that you see in the following pic:

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    This is an entirely different sound source which you won't use often but which is awesome when you do use it. Most of the time, you'll use the digital sound outputs. When you see "5.1" in the menu of the DVD player, it is referring to these six RCA outputs. You would really only use these with big budget movies as the sound process is extremely expensive. These six outputs are six totally independent sound channels for the L&R fronts, center, L&R surrounds and the sub (the .1). With the bigger budget movies, they will work at and construct six totaly independent channels for each of the six speakers for the maximum in sound effects and it is truly awesome and will be infinitely better than the digital signals from the optical or coax cables. Its extremely expensive to do so only the really big movies put any effort into it so your much better off using the optical or coax; the "digital" outputs. Big budget movies like Saving Private Ryan, the Star Wars movies, Titanic ... big name and big budget movies, will put a lot of effort into these six seperate sound tracks and the effect can be awesome but you won't use it that often. Cheaper DVD players don't even have these six RCA outputs. When you want to use this particular type of sound source, you choose "External Input" on your remote pad. You don't use it often but its awesome with the right movies.
     

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