1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Dvd decrypter / Dvd shrink3.2

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by adult33, Mar 13, 2005.

  1. adult33

    adult33 Guest

    Well i have both and unfortunately , i only have gotten shrink to work for me because i have a small hard drive i cant back up the file with decrypt , and then analyze and back it up to burn again after it gets compressed with shrin and I have had problems with nero ! And looking around this forum i have seen someone did the same thing i have done with the sellections to burn with Decrypter after shrinking it ! So shrink decrypts the movie backs it up and burns with decrypter ! All well and good but i am having a huge problem with the speed , Man alive some times it takes 2 minutes to analyze the movie but then it takes 3 hours to encode the movie ! I have looked into changing the drives from poi to dma and they are already set at that setting for DMA , does Anyone know what the deal is ! I have a dell inspiron 1100 2.4gmhz with a 20gig drive cdrw/dvd, with an external dvd-/+rw ! 256 megs of ram , What should i do BESIDES findind an IBM T-20 or 40 , lol ha ha ha ha Help..........Any ideas would be very helpfull I am using -r rw's thats the format my pc uses ! I just want to know what i could do to possibly speed things up a bit , thanks guys !
     
  2. hursty

    hursty Active member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2004
    Messages:
    4,618
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    66
    if the pc spec's are low,that what you are going to get i'm afraid
    turn everything off,whilst encoding
    never go on the internet
    turn off security if you can
    basically dont touch the pc

    and you are using rw's,they are rewritables
    you dont have to use these,they are expensive!
     
  3. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2005
    Messages:
    31,683
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    96
    might be worth doubling your ram if you can (just checked google you have 2 memory slots, all depends on if you have both solots filled and if it's too expensive for your machine); the cpu sounds up to the job (i now have an athlon 2800+XP (equiv to a 2.8GHz Intel i think) with 512mb ram - encoding nearly always 15 to 30mins, 15mins to burn at 4x). previous pc was P3 500MHz with 384MB ram and it always encoded in like 2hours.

    Rich

    Rich
     
  4. saugmon

    saugmon Senior member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2004
    Messages:
    6,064
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Do you have usb 2.0?

    To speed things up,try main movie only with dvd shrink. Untick all the settings for sound except ac3 5.1ch english only. Cut out the extra beginning and ending credits. If compressing needs performed still-but not very much, untick the enhancements.

    Get rid of spyware,stay off the porn sites-lol.
    Your hard drive may need defragged.

    Also what hursty posted.

    I just backed up my big fat greek wedding,main movie only-along with enhancements, using my backup pc. 598mhz celeron,30 gig hd,10 gig hd,256 mbs ram with dvd shrink and nero and a 16x burn speed: results-20% compression and overall 2 hrs 50 min process time. Without the enhancements I can do it well under an hour.
     
  5. bbmayo

    bbmayo Active member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Messages:
    5,088
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    96
    How much compression is on this movie? Are you using the enhancing features in Shrink? If you are doing a lot of compression and using the Enhancing features in Shrink then this time probably isn't that far off.. What you really need is another Hard Drive!! memory could help but it really isnt that big of an issue when it comes to encoding. This is more CPU intensive than anything else.. You need to try and clean up your hard drive as best as possible delete cookies, temp files, history, do a defrag, and get rid of any spyware ect.. 20GB just isnt going to cut it for DVD authoring though. How much space is actually free on that hard drive?
     
  6. spacedust

    spacedust Regular member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2005
    Messages:
    365
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    You need atleast 100gig(Ultra133) (SATA prefered) hard drive if you want to rip dvd's. You need to be running windows 2000 or XP. Format hard drives NTFS this will get you past 4gig file limit. 512 memory minimum. 256 minimum just for XP not running any other programs. Your DVD drive that your using to rip could also be a problem it probally has rip LOCK. I recommend Asus Model DVD-E616P2,this drive really fast ripper. You said your drives are set for DMA but are they running dma. Make sure current transfer mode says ultra dma mode. If it says PIO uninstall IDE device reboot and let windows set it back to DMA. If I had to guess I'll bet it's more in the drive your using to rip with that's slowing you down.

    Good Luck

    Spacedust
     
  7. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2005
    Messages:
    31,683
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    96
    i can you're going for future-proof there !. i get by fine with a 20GB drive, this is absolutely fine as always keep 6GB free, only when i need to dvd decrypt an entire disc to hard drive do i come unstuck. Then i switch on (you guessed it...) my spare 20GB drive which lives in an external usb2.0 enclosure...

    Am loathe to replace my trusty 20giggers until one of them fail...

    all depends what else you do with your PC.
     
  8. hursty

    hursty Active member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2004
    Messages:
    4,618
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    66
    good suggestions,
    but let me tell you until a recent upgrade i was backing dvd's with a right old banger
    it took longer, granted

    but it worked

    i had about 7 gb's of space
    using fat 32(dvd decypter handles bigger files)

    with kind regards hursty
     
  9. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2005
    Messages:
    31,683
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    96
    forgot to add that i've always used FAT32 since it was born, no need for NTFS (other than the 4GB single file limit), but there's ways around that; my 20giggers are lowly ATA100. As for Windows XP you can keep it lol, took me long enough to retire Win98, was happy with Win2K long ago and still see no need to change, it just works great. Just my five cents
     
  10. The_OGS

    The_OGS Active member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    1,483
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Yes, two small HDs are in some ways better than 1 huge one :)
    Rip to HD using Decrypter in file mode, then remove DVD, reboot then use Shrink on the VOBs on your HD.
    Direct the output to the other HD (which should be on its own controller).
    Use Shrink in Reauthor Mode and select movie and main audio only, as has been advised, to minimize compression.
    The high-quality features should be enabled as these do not really add time to the process (the in-depth analysis might take 4 minutes instead of 2) and quality is important.
    You need a PC Hopup (or at least Tuneup) my friend.
    The single best thing you could do is grab a nice 80GB HD w/ 8MB cache.
    These are inexpensive (CDN $79) and installing one will speed you up! ;-)
    It's true that transcoding is not overly memory-intensive, but 256MB is marginal for running XP.
    XP takes 100MB for itself when just starting up.
    If you introduce a new D:\ drive as master on second controller (you say your burner is external anyway) you can then put your Windows pagefile on it.
    Make it 512MB (min.) 1024MB (max.) and the speed increase in your everyday Windows tasks will be dramatic.
    The new HD will speed up your rips and also hold off your need for more memory too.
    Easy to add in second HD - just leave your OS right where it is!
    When 1 HD only reads and the other only writes, it is easy on the PC.
    When 1 HD has to both read and write, you need memory (real memory).
    Virtual memory just adds a THIRD thing that the poor HD has to do...
    Regards

    Edit: Win2K noted, but advice still good :)
    L8R
     
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2005
  11. bbmayo

    bbmayo Active member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Messages:
    5,088
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    96
    Sorry I agreed with everthing in your post very good indeed! except for that part about the in-depth analysis. If your movie is compressd 70% or more the in-depth analysis takes a lot longer!! I'm not saying to not use it but to say it only takes minutes is not true in all cases. I am sure many on here have figured that out :)
    I really agree with the hard drive size issue.. The larger your hard drive is the better your system will run. 20Gb wow that would cripple me LOL I have 60GB worth of programs loaded on my C:/ drive right now and my other HD has 120GB worth of crap on it :) Anyway even if you only have 6GB on your hard drive your whole system will run smoother and faster with a larger hard drive. You don't need to be a computer genius to know that either just do some reading on the net and you could pretty much figure that out. I have also been building and repairing computers for over 12 years now and bigger is better when it comes to Hard Drives, and memory. I would say a memory is a good and cheap upgrade, but dont overlook your hard drive. Another thing no one talks about to much on here which actually has a lot to do with authoring is your video card very important piece of hardware in any computer. OK I got one other cheap up grade that helps a lot also.. Keep it cool.. Throw some new fans in your computer and cool it down you will be surprised how much easier it can handle those heavy tasks. :) OK I went on a little long with this one just wanted to share my opinion..
    Later all :)
     
  12. The_OGS

    The_OGS Active member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    1,483
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Howzit goin' BB - good feedback :)
    But usually when I Shrink, analysis done before I can make tea...
    However I always re-author and so usually compress only 90% or maybe 85% max.
    Key point is:
    -HD better investment than memory (if you must choose).
    -Keep 2 HDs instead of replacing smaller with larger.
    -Keep OS on 1 and put swapfile on other.
    Yes keep 'em cool!
    Multiple HDs get REAL hot and can actually contribute to most of the heat in your case...
    Regards
     
  13. adult33

    adult33 Guest

    Wow , i do Thank you all for such great advice ! im not a computer novice and do know well in depth to take things apart ! but comming from a guy whom only knows the os administration and network infrastucture ! Im not to good with the whole backup dvd programs I am currently going for a much larger drive and more ram for the dell laptop , Thank you E-bay ! But im going to play around with everything everyone had mentioned and i am sure things will get better ! once again thank you all for your Advice . i thought i was nuts to see a 2 gig mhz machine run so slow ! Going to defrag and clean up the drive and then see what happens ! as well as get more ram ! I will let all know the results ! Or what i might do is put the usb dvd burner on a Ibm celeron 500mhz machine with a 30gig 512 on the ram and format the drive install windows 2000 and just use it for the purpose of backing up dvd's But then again the larger drive and more ram is on its way ! from e-bay current project 11% encoded with 3 hrs and 4 minutes for pearl harbor disk 2 , jesus wow thats a long time ! lol
     

Share This Page