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DVD SANTA

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by limelight, Sep 22, 2004.

  1. limelight

    limelight Regular member

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    is it worth it?
     
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    Navig8r Regular member

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    No Idea

    Hopefully ScubaPete sees this Im sure he'll have the answer he always seems to know :)

    I have heard its a good proggy
    but never used it myself
     
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    limelight Regular member

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    im new to this whole dvd converting thing...so i just need a program that will do it all like converting, copying, etc with exceptional quailty, within a resonable amount of time.
     
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    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    If you dont want to pay for software , there is an excellent proggie that will do everyting you ask [apart from encoding DivX/avi/xvid/mpg] .... basically just your average DVD back up or DVD re-authoring & the name is : DVD Shrink 3.2

    You can find it here in aD software section my friend (oh & btw .. welcome to aD forums) !:c)

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    limelight Regular member

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    i tried dvd shrink, every time id open a file from my comp, it would say it wasnt there, even though it really is.
     
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    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    Wow !! That's a new one ... you were trying to open a DVD-Video file yes & not an avi/mpeg etc ?

    Guide for DVD Shrink: http://www.dvdshrink.info/guides.php
     
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    no its an avi file.
     
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    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    AVI needs to be converted to VOB/IFO/BUP format for any of the compression apps to recognize the file.

    DVDSants supposedly will do the conversion as well as the compression but how well it does this I don't know.

    *edit* I've just installed it and am testing it on a 37 min. AVI. Will report back with the reults.
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    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    So far so good. It converted the 37 min AVI to NTSC VOB/IFP/BUP format and burned it as well. The resulting disc played fine in my standalone.

    Now to convert a full DVD that's in PAL format :)
     
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    I just installed and tried it myself.
    Converted an avi to dvd very quickly.
    I like the photo slide show to dvd thingy.
    I loaded it with our wedding photos and imported the funeral march soundtrack. It works great, fades all the photos in and out in different ways and you can sync the photos to the music.
    Very easy to use.
     
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    limelight Regular member

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    hows the quality on the avi-dvd film?
    how long did it take to convert?
    how much did u pay for it?
     
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    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    It goes for $30.

    I started a PAL to NTSC conversion of a 3.8 GB DVD rip right after my last post and as of now it's still going. I know for a fact that my standalone/TV won't play PAL format so I guess I'll see how good a job it does :)

    Lol! I'm sure glad I haven't married! Too many horror stories floating about.
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    cool, i didnt know it did pal and ntsc conversion.
     
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    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Still going..............
     
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    Can't find the wife to sex kitten conversion button.
     
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    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    You have to pay extra for that one :)
     
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    We get on very well to be honest, we call each other everything but she's my bestest friend, in fact she's my only friend. Lol
     
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    Well after 8 hours DVD Santa completed the conversion from PAL to NTSC but the results are interesting. This is the first PAL to NTSC conversion I've attempted simply because I've never had the opportunity to do so until now.

    The original PAL file was 3.8GB but swelled to 4.8 GB after the conversion. I then used CloneDVD 2 to compress the files and burn to disc.

    When I played the disc in my old Sony standalone the picture was horribly blocky and tended to have small skips yet looks and plays perfectly in my PC.

    As I said this is my first conversion so I'm not sure what factors may have contributed to the poor results on my standalone. I'll see if I can pull in some of the big guns and get their take on this.
     
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    I must admit to not having tried this 'DVD Santa' yet but it does offer some extra features to most other proggies [but then again I wasn't never one for doing it all-in-one]...

    I've never really had great success w/ converting PAL to NTSC myself ... the usual things to show in encoded file playback would be as the camerashot is panning there would be a very slightly judder ... or (and this is the worst of all) the audio would go out of sync.
    The second of the problems would often be because 2 files had been added together during encoding/converting.

    If I have a NTSC file (whether avi/DivX/XviD or mpeg) I usually leave it as NTSC , because I have no problem in playing PAL or the dreaded US & Jap favoured 29.6fps NTSC format(s).

    So from tests run here by others I would briefly summise that the software DVD Santa may well do most of what you need ... apart from NTSC to PAL conversions(or vice versa).

    I encoded Jet Li's HERO earlier on today & what a great film it is !! :c)
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    @Nephilim:
    I've just been working on my first PAL to NTSC conversion with an AVI, and here's what I've figured out so far. I'm frameserving to CCE with AviSynth. If you want to try AviSynth out you should read my guide (http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/avisynth_tutorial.cfm) to learn how to read VOB files with AviSynth. These lines will convert the video to the correct framerate and also reduce the sample rate of the audio to keep it in synch:

    AssumeFPS(23.976,true) #Changes framerate of video and samplerate of audio
    LanczosResize(720,480) #Changes video to NTSC resolution

    I'm also starting with an AVI that has lower resolution than my encoded file. If you're starting with a DVD, you'll presumably have source frames with a higher resolution (720x576), so you should probably use a different resizer like this one:

    BilinearResize(720,480)

    LanczosResize() will sharpen the picture a little, which is good for increasing the resolution, but for reducing the resolution it's generally better to smooth the picture slightly, which BilinearResize() does.

    I opened the avs in VirtualDubMod and saved the audio as a WAV that's the right length, but a non-standard sample rate. In your case, assuming AC3 audio, you'd need to decompress the AC3 first, which I think BeSweet can do, which should leave you with 6 mono WAV files for a 5.1 channel stream. Then you can add each of them, one at a time, to the video from the VOB in your script using these lines to load your sources:

    V = MPEG2Source("X:\Wherever\Whatever.d2v") #Read Video From VOB file
    A = WavSource("X:\Wherever\Whatever-1.wav")
    AudioDub(V,A)

    Add the conversion lines after that, open the file in VirtualDub and save the audio stream as a WAV. Repeat for each channel, and you'll end up with 6 new mono WAVs that you can resample to 48kHz and encode to AC3. Of course you'd have to find a 5.1 encoder you can afford. I use a friend's copy of Sound Forge for this. You might be able to use BeSweet with AC3Enc.dll for surround support, but that doesn't create completely compliant streams from what I understand.

    Re-encode the video and you'll be ready to author the movie. I'd recommend CCE (any version) to encode. Then you can author the new DVD from the new video and audio files.

    It's a little complicated if you haven't done any of this before, but it should give you good results. If you can get DVD Santa to do the audio conversion for you, you could run the movie through it first, and then demux the audio with DVD2AVI to use with a properly converted video stream. I'm not sure if there would be sync issues, but if there were you could probably fix them during authoring.

    Edit: I forgot to mention that you need to use a program like Pulldown or DoPulldown to add pulldown flags to the video before you author it. If you're using DVD-Lab to author with you can skip this step and let DVD-Lab do it automatically when you import the video as an asset.
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