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DVD Shrink and Upconverter DVD Player

Discussion in 'DVD Shrink forum' started by littlegun, Jan 21, 2007.

  1. littlegun

    littlegun Regular member

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    Just wondering if anyone has:

    Shrunk a movie with DVD Shrink, 4.4 GB and then played it on a DVD upconverter?

    Just curious as to the quality?
     
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    I don't have HD yet, but I'm familiar with Shrink. Even with regular video the output will vary according to compression. Any degradation is going to be enhanced in the HD environment. It goes to the old saying, garbage in, garbage out. For HD I'd suggest keeping the compression as low as possible.
     
  3. Shardel

    Shardel Guest

    My Son has a plasma TV and an upconverting DVD player. I do backups
    of my grandkids movies so they don't ruin the originals. I have
    see the backups played on his equipment. They are unbelievable when
    it comes to quality.
    I use AnyDVD, Shrink, and Imgburn. Usually I copy movie only, but
    can do it both ways. Either way on his equipment you can not tell
    the difference from the original even when I am using cheap media
    discs.
    Hope this info helps.
     
  4. johnl123

    johnl123 Regular member

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    @littlegun

    I do it every time I watch a movie I've just backed up. I have a Sony DVD player with an HDMI input (which is required for the upconversion to take place) that upconverts the video to 720p or 1080i, the movies look great and I highly recommend getting one.

    Cheers.
     
  5. PacMan777

    PacMan777 Regular member

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    Shardel
    As you probably know, not all factory DVDs have the same content. I've seen them range from barely over 4.5GB on up to 8.5GB. Some factory DVDs are even DVD5 to begin with with no compression needed. You can see how compression would vary from no compression to 8.5GB. Even on regular TV you can see some degradation as the compression gets really high, 40% or more. I use encoder software instead of the transcoders most people use and I can see the difference between a highly compressed copy and an original. The copies are still good, but some flaws creep in. After all, something is being removed when compressing. Editing eases the compression, which you said you were doing with the movie only. A lot of movies need little compression at all. The filler material on a lot of DVDs is where software has to work harder.
     
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  6. Shardel

    Shardel Guest

    I agree with you about the compression. That is the reason I usually
    do movie only. I use 4.5G discs and try to keep the compression at
    70%. Still the few that I do with more compression than that have
    been really good. The upconverting is much better on the kids
    movies that are animated such as Cars. I do think the upconverting
    looks much better on a plasma than an LCD, but for the average
    person both are quite acceptable. Most people watching them would
    not be aware of the difference if it wasn't pointed out to them
    that they were watching a copy.
    I was only trying to be helpful with a layman's opinion, but I
    always acknowledge the experts because you really know your stuff.
     
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    Shardel
    Sounds like you know quite a bit yourself. We appreciate your opinion. Using an upconverter definitely has to be better than just trying to use a regular player. From your first hand experience and good recording techniques, we've got input on copies playing good on upconverters.
     

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