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DVD Shrink...title 1 title 2...which is which?

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  1. satb7783

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    When I preview them you can't tell which one is fullscreen nad with one is wide. How can you tell?
     
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    If one is full screen and the other is wide, you should have no problem telling them apart when you preview them. Now, screen format is not the only reason for more than one title on a DVD. It could be part of the angle feature on the disk or it could also be theatrical cut and extended cut, which Alien Vs Predator has. The way I check to see if the extra title is the angle option is to preview the first title and without stopping it highlight the other title. If it keeps playing without an interuption it is the diferent angles. If that is the case and you were only going to backup the title by itself you would backup the first title only. What DVD are you confused about?
     
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    The New Guy and Detroit Rock City. Both have 2 different ones to pick from, and when you preview, I can't tell a difference at all. I always do the reauthor then copy JUST the movie itself, for quality reasons.

    I tried to make the preview box bigger and then play both, and both of them still look the same. Anything I am doing wrong? Thanks for the help.
     
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    Did I mention I am NEW to this whole thing...haha
     
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    I don't own either of those movies so I can't just tell you for sure. Did you check it to see if it had the angle option yet?
     
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    Didn't see it...nope
     
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    I am confused on what this "angle" thing is...?
     
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    For now, just highlight the first title then hit play. Once it's playing highlight the next title. If it continues playing without starting over let me know. If it start from the beggining, let me know.
     
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    I started title one on DRC, then clicked on the other title, title 4, and title one continued to play.
     
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    Ok, this means there is an angle feature on this DVD. Some DVDs have this option. If you look at your DVD remote, you'll notice a button called angle. The DVDs with this feature show you a different perspective during a scene. It is an added feature that shows you other camera shots during the same scene. Some movies like the Mulan Special Edition for example have this feature and if you press the angle button it cuts to someone drawing that scene while it is still playing and if you hit the button again it will either go back to the film or another angle. Some movies have multiple angles.

    If you just want the main movie itself, chose the first title only. Hope this helps
     
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    Thanks for all the help.
     
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    Actually, if you are using Nero's recode2 (the same as DVD Shrink) and go into the re-author mode, When the main movie begins to play, you can in fact see the difference, which is WS and which is FS. As a general rule, and I emphasize generally, it is title 1 BUT of course it can be any title. I use recode2 a lot more because it maintains a working menu.

    Give recode a shot - it's under-used and it is much better than DVD Shrink because of the menu.

    As far as the angles,

    an explanation of DVD Multi angles on a DVD
    Courtesy of vurbal

    Additional angles are added using a process called interleaving where multiple versions of a title share some parts and have other parts that are unique. In the case of multiple angles the different versions are actually part of the same title (as listed in a table in VIDEO_TS.IFO - where Shrink seems to get the title numbers from) so it's not listed separately in Full Disk mode. If you go into re-author mode the duplicate video/audio is contained in each angle so you can select the version you want. If the different versions of the title had been different lengths (like theatrical version and director's cut) it would have had to use a different type of interleaving called seamless branching, which requires 2 different titles that would have both been listed in Full Disk mode.

    This is common in Disney movies. They often use it to have multiple versions of the credits in different languages. I even have one Disney DVD (Beauty & The Beast Special Edition) that has 3 different versions of the movie using seamless branching and each version has 2 angles. When I open the disk in Shrink it shows me that the main movie is 3 titles and re-author mode shows 6 titles because of the extra angles.

    Cheers,

    Pete
     

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