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DVD95COPY Miniguide

Discussion in 'DVD±R for advanced users' started by loaded, Mar 11, 2003.

  1. loaded

    loaded Moderator Staff Member

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    [Since writing, there have been developments with this software and DVD2ONE, read through additional posts in this thread]

    Hello again guys!

    This is meant as a miniguide for those of you already familiar with my mini guide for DVD2ONE and who have some pretty good DVD ripping knowledge also. Newbies can also post to this thread, of course, but no obvious questions, like 'where can I get this SmartRipper stuff' !!

    You will need :

    1 : either SmartRipper of DVD Decrypter
    2 : DVD95COPY (trial available here : http://www.dvd95copy.com/demodl.htm)
    3 : Burning software (I will use Nero, please use what you want, but I won't have tested it. You will not be using any wizards or anything like that, so make sure you know how to make a standalone compliant DVD in your software)

    For those of you who don't know, DVD95Copy addresses some of those issues that DVD2ONE did not address. Now, don't get me wrong, I love DVD2ONE and if all you want is you movie, start to end, with no extras or menus and just those subs and dubs you need, there really is nothing better IMHO. Unless of course you want to backup an episodal DVD. Then you're stuck :)

    However, many of you have been lamenting the fact that it does not do extras and menus, so after some effort, these other developers have come up with DVD95COPY. It is here now and it works, one thing though. Modern recorded DVDs are usually well over 7GB sometimes more with all extras. Even if you strip out some of the unwanted dialogue or subs, you will still be left with something large. Because you are keeping menus and all extras (future versions will offer the chance to remove those you don't want, so theoretically you could just have a menu and movie solution) the resulting movie will be smaller (consequently lower quality) than with DVD2ONE. This is because although the menus and extras are really compacted (and I mean REALLY compacted!) the movie will inevitably be less than 4.36GB, upto 1GB less depending on extras. If you have a really long movie and , lets say loads of extra scenes, your movie could be 140 minutes and only 3.5GB. Think about this before committing to this solution and consider DVDxCOPY, or other two disc solutions for these movies if you must keep all the extras. Never forget that a commercially available DVD is DVD9, which is 9GB (two layers), twice as big as a DVD-R.

    That said, this is really a great piece of software, so on with the guide:

    1 : Rip your movie to the hard drive in File mode using your choice of ripper software, making sure you have enough space and that you select ALL files. Usually the ripping software selects only the main movie. Of course you need everything, menus and episodes, if it is that kind of DVD.

    2 : Make a directory called something like moviefinal on your harddrive and open DVD95COPY. Click the OPENDVD (which means open it from harddrive) and locate the folder which you ripped your movie into originally (If using DVD Decrypter, this will be the VIDEO_TS folder inside the movie name folder.)

    3 : After locating the ripped files, you will be given the options (English automatically selected) of languages and subs. Choose the ones you want and click on the destination directory button.

    4 : Locate the empty folder you made and click the start button.

    The encoding process can take upto 3 hours, but they are intending on improving this.

    Once the encoding is finished, you can go onto burning. I like to include burning instructions in my miniguide, so here goes:

    1 : Open Nero and close that bloody wizard ;-)

    2 : Select new compilation, select DVD and then DVD ROM UDF/ISO. Leave all the settings as before (make sure 1.02 File system version is selected under UDF tab for compatibility) and click new.

    3 : Create two folders under the left hand window, one called VIDEO_TS the other AUDIO_TS (which will remain empty) and drag and drop the files which are in the moviefinal folder to the VIDEO_TS folder (it must be open!) window in the middle and click burn.

    Burn slow and use good discs. I have tested this method on Phillips 622, Thomson (something, not sure of model!) Panasonic portable and some others with great results.

    Please post any questions to this thread. Really stupid questions (this is forum for advanced users after all) will be ignored and deleted, please go to the newbies section if you are not ready.

    As usual we will get posts for links to cracks and to serial numbers etc. As usual anyone doing this will be banned and have the added enjoyment of going into my new hall of fame for stupidity. I have not checked with the webmaster yet, but I intend to make a sticky thread in 'Safety Valve' with links to all that dorkage some people seem to come up with.

    Good luck and happy burning!

    Paul.

    :)
     
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  2. malum

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    It's worth noting that whilst DVD95copy will do episodic discs, if they are in different program chains it picks the biggest episode as the main movie and compresses the rest as if they were extras. I'm sure this is something they will be addressing but at the moment it isn't much good for these type of discs.

    This will no doubt be followed by all sorts of posts by people saying that when they watch their episodic copies made with DVD95copy they can't tell the difference, but it compresses the hell out of anything it thinks is an extra so if you can't tell the difference you need to visit your local optician.
     
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  3. loaded

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    The compression on the menus and extras and certain episodal discs is severe. It was actually quite amusing to watch the extras of Matrix with very blocky graphics, considering how much effort went into making it! If you want a solution which is on one DVDR, but is bigger than 4.36GB and it is this type of episodal DVD, then there is no option but to use this method, if you want to avoid manual authoring of the files like with DVD2ONE. I would however have to recommend the simple option of DVDxCOPY.

    Yes, the guys on DVD95COPY are working on that, as with the other 'problems' like not being able to select what you do and don't want.

    Paul.
     
  4. omegaboy

    omegaboy Guest

    i read from some pc magazine , i don't know if it's true or just a rumor, but they about to release a new dvd media that can hold up to 7.2 gb (dvd-/+r media). If that 's true, then I guess we won't worry much about the "decrease" in quality after using the "transcoding" program (dvd95copy, or dvd2one)...
     
  5. loaded

    loaded Moderator Staff Member

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    I would be surprised if new media would be compatible with all burners/player/standalones. If it is not, then it will end up being specialist kit that represents a fraction of a percent of the user base out there.

    Paul.
     
  6. omegaboy

    omegaboy Guest

    Can you please say the last sentence again in plain English ? Sorry but my English is limited!! :(
     
  7. loaded

    loaded Moderator Staff Member

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    No buggers will use it.

    Paul.
     
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    A_Klingon Moderator Staff Member

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    Something like that would require a whole new (and incompatible) generation of set top standalone dvd players, if you wanted to play the discs back on anything outside of your computer. Either that, or a new generation of 'compatible' dvd players that would accept both the old (regular) and new types of disc.

    I wonder why the makers of these all-in-one 2-disc to 1-disc transcoding programs don't treat *all* video content the same? With equal compression for ALL material, both movie and extras? It would eliminate the video-quality difference one (may) see between the extras and main movie content, and eliminate the horrific problem that malum has unearthed re. episodic discs!

    Equal compression across the entire disc span, regardless of the content would seem to make sense. Depending on the original dvd's length, some backups would look worse than other (shorter) backups, but at least the quality-level would be consistent throughout each disc, without any nasty surprises.

    (Sigh...) I can see that transcoding software has a long way to go.

    -- Mike --
     
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  9. omegaboy

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    I think it's only hard for now because dvd recording is still too new. Probably about 2 years later it will get easier like recording regular music cds! By the way, I think the reason why using Nero doesn't make a full dvd compliant (after copy with the transcoded files from dvd2one and dvd95copy) because of some bugs in version. I downloaded the latest version from this month (Nero 5.5.10.15) and it works with my apex dvd-players now.
     
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    OK, now DVD95COPY will allow you to select which extras/menus you want to include and by how much you want them compressed. This is great for those of you who wanted just a menu, but did not want all the extras compromising the quality of the movie. DVD95COPY now addresses some of the bugs, which makes it more stable and IMHO it is now the most flexible of single DVD-R solutions, although still rather slow in the face of DVD2ONE
     
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    Version 1.4 has been released, here are the additions:

    - Added option for selective TitleSet compression.
    - Added option to select no compression for TitleSets.
    - Added option to select compression for Menus seperatly
    - Added option to select audio and subtitle removment for all TitleSets.
    - Added: Full and Wide screen of each TitleSet is now displayed.
    - fixed again some audio & subpic problems.
    - Added option to set the final DVD-R size.


    This, IMHO, is perhaps the most adaptable single disc solution on the market today. Give it a go!

    Paul :)
     
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    back soon
     
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    What i've noticed to work is using a combination of programs... DVD Shrink will let you reauthor and manually choose compression, titles (this is important for episodic DVDs like TV Shows), and audio streams... If you don't want to use the default menus you can use DVD Lab to create your own ... sometimes the real menus are nice, but iono if it's worth the hassle.
     
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