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DVDecrypt how to increase the speed of Ripping

Discussion in 'DVD±R for advanced users' started by mhatip, Feb 17, 2003.

  1. mhatip

    mhatip Member

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    Before i upgraded my WinXP SP1 service pack i was ripping at speeds at around 6.0X or more, but after the update, now my DVD rom can only read of up to 2.0X speed, how can i improve my speed to go back to 5.0X or more. I get the same with Smart Ripper. I think Smart Ripper doesn't go more than 2.0X, am i wrong.

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    are you using gears drivers for your burner. i've heard they slow down the ripper on some machines. don't think WinXP SP1 has anything to do with the problem! i had a similar problem after installing the next to last upgrade for dvdx copy. it was the gears drivers....mike
     
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    I am not quite sure, i do know that i had Gear Pro installed, but dont know if i removed the Gear Pro drivers. But which exactly drivers of Gear Pro would possibly cause the slow reading of the DVD ripping programs? Does Gear Pro have drivers that replace the Window's XP default drivers for reading DVD Roms?

    Anyways, i will chk it tonight and see if that changes. Anyways Thanks for your respons
     
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    Oner Moderator Staff Member

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    I would like to know myself how to make sure the drivers are fully removed or how to do so. Although I did read the "slow down" was enforced by the MPAA. Hope someone can hack it if possible.
     
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    After uninstalling Gear Pro drivers, my DVD ROM drive still didn't increase in speed. I also found out that DVDXCOPY installs Gear Pro Drivers. But i doubt that will be my problem. Later I noticed, that my DVD burner now can read speeds of upto 10X with DVDDecrypt. I can't explain exactly, but it seems like my DVD Burner, has given some sort of priority, so it can read faster than my DVD ROM Drive. So i guess from now on, i will be using my DVD Burner to exctract DVD files.

    Glad i found another way to extract faster :)

    Hope you try different way as well if its reading slow for you.
     
  6. dRD

    dRD I hate titles Staff Member

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    As I've told this many, many times before in these forums:

    In the beginning of 2002, MPAA contacted several DVD drive manufacturers and persuaded them to implement a block in their drives that would limit the physical reading speed of DVD-Video discs to exactly 2.0x. Since then, virtually all big-name drives have been locked to this and so far, no hacks are available to override the limitation.

    My DVR-105 copies data from DVD-ROM discs nicely at appx 12-15x (16x branded), but for DVD-Video, the max that I get is exactly 2.000000000000x. But my 1999-manufactured Pioneer 115 DVD-ROM (16x as well) rips DVD-Video nicely at 6-9x.
     
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    For some reason I have the same problem when ripping with DVDecryptor (2.0x - 2.2x max), but when I rip a porn DVD that is single layer, it speeds up to like 5.0x. I wish I can rips movies like that.

    sirmugen
     
  8. mhatip

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    dRD, thats why you are the BOSS :). Thanks for explainng why we get 2.000000x and other time 9.6x or more. I guess it depends on what kind of media you are using. But 2.0000000x does blow big time, it takes me like 25-30 min to rip a DVD. Oh well, its time to move on and forget about this problemo.

    Cheeers
     
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    dRD I hate titles Staff Member

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    Basically the limitation applies to those discs that contain copy-protection mechanisms (CSS and others, DVD-Video disc actually contains huge pile of various techniques, CSS is just the best-known one), so your cheapo non-CSS-spoiled good olde porn DVDs will rip at the speeds that you would get for all your DVDs without the annoying limitation.
     
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    Oner Moderator Staff Member

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    dRD, I have a Toshiba SD-M1402 that I have never flashed and have had it since about 1999. But it only ripps at 2.xx but sometimes hits 3.xx. Have any ideas as to why this may be?
     
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    dRD I hate titles Staff Member

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    Dextrslab: Well, for some drives, the simple fact is that they just _don't_ rip fast :) But obviously the usual stuff needs to be checked for -- are DMA connections in use, is the drive master or slave, etcetc.
     
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    I guess it's one of those drives as it all correct. Thanx for the info anyway :) Do you have any suggestions for a fast ripping drive as I am sure I can find some old drives at the local computer show.
     
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    dRD I hate titles Staff Member

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    Well, I've been extremely happy with Pioneer 115 and 116 models, I achieve ripping speeds of appx 6-8x at all times (unless the disc is filthy, obviously).
     
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    dRD, I have a Cendyne DVR-105 that I use along with DVDDecrypter to rip the dvd video discs. The max rip speed I get is 2.1x, but yet the drive quotes a speed of 12X. Is this 12X speed just for 'viewing' the discs through say WinDVD? I'm confused! Why can't I rip at 12X speeds?

    Thanks in advance dRD!!
     
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    dRD I hate titles Staff Member

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    IndyBrn: Exactly as I said previously, the DVD-Video reading speed is locked in new drives, including DVR-105, to 2.0x (well, in some cases you get 2.1x) and can't be changed. The 12x can be achieved for DVD-ROM discs, not DVD movies.
     
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    I suggest we start making a list of all drives that will rip faster than 5x. We should include the brand, model#, and year manufactured. Is anyone else up for this? Also, does anyone know if there are any NEW DVD-ROM drives I can buy that rip fast, or the only ones than can older?
     

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