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'Error message: Cyclic redundancy check'

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  1. chadcruz

    chadcruz Member

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    Hi, I have been trying to burn and received the following messages:

    'Failed to read D:\' (thats the dvd drive on my computer)

    'Data error (Cyclic redundancy check)'

    This has happened with more than one disk..a similar message also appeared when trying to burn using DVD decrypter.

    Any suggestions?


     
  2. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    try cleaning them as best as you can; Next try searching for this problem in search box at top of page as this is a very common problem.

    Lastly, if you've tried the above and still no joy, list the names of the movies in case they have funny protections, but even then, if you search for specific films in search box you may well be able to sort it yourself. good luck..
     
  3. Car.Mike

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    chadcruz ,
    Do as creaky stated and clean them real well. See if there are any scratches and if they are there see if after cleaning you can get DVDDecrypter to rip the movie to HD. DVDD will tell you in the log if there are any unreadable parts to the movie. If that comes up then you will need to either return the DVD for an exchange or borrow the movie from a friend
     
  4. chadcruz

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    Thanks for the tips...
    I think unfortunately its just a dodgy disk and no amount of cleaning will bring it to life!
     
  5. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @chadcruz - aha.... your post suggested more than one disc. If it's a particular movie it could be arccos protected..
    ie -
    Gothika
    L4YER CAKE
    Little Black Book
    Resident Evil Apocalypse
    She Hates Me
    The Forgotten
    The Grudge
    Walking Tall
    WrestleMania 3 & 4

    let us know..
     
  6. chadcruz

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    Hi,
    The disks are 'Anchorman' and the other is 'Napoleon Dynamite'
     
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    chadcruz,
    Those are new and there is no special encryption on them . Use DVDDecrypter as I suggested and rip it in file mode to the HD.
     
  8. chadcruz

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    I'm curious...any reason for using file mode instead of iso mode? I'm not too familair with dvd decrypter and have only previously used it in the iso mode.
     
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    chadcruz,
    DVDDecrypter has been around for a little while and that was the only way to do a movie. Old Habits stay around but it has never failed me.
    The only reason I use .iso is to do a D/L disk or to do a movie that is less than 4.3GB .
     
  10. chadcruz

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    I tried it using file mode, however it keeps saying it cannot complete. I am backing these up for a friend, who has just informed me they were bought from Bali....So I guess this is the problem, they are cheap versions and Decrypter and shrink cant view them?
     
  11. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @chadcruz - i've copied quite a few discs 'from Bali' or that neck of the woods. From eBay or market stalls etc... From my experience with that sort of disc, the physical discs appeared to be of a lower or dubious quality. ie looking underneath the disc you would see funny marks near the centre spindle like scratches where someone's scratched out the disc code or whatever. Some of these were a pig to copy, i'd get errors as per this thread title. Cleaning and then ripping thru my burner va DVD decrypter always worked for me, albeit v slowly due to v dubious quality discs. I never did run a program on them to check the media code as i managed to copy all of them in the end.

    Same as Elektra last night, Shrink threw a fit near end of analysis phase 2 or 3 times, even after cleaning. Bottom of disc had a few scratches, but got there by using decrypter to grab all files off; Shrink then complained about one of the VOB files, 'data error' i think which is pretty damn close to a CRC check. So.. not to be beaten ran all files thru Vob Blanker for a laugh. This took a while but appeared to work. Then i could Shrink just the movie. Then i had to sleep!. But i should be able to burn to dvd fine; hopefully the film will play thru fine, but i won't be surprised if there's a corruption or freeze on playback.
    update-burnt and watched the film thru 100%. cracking film too btw.
     
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  12. chadcruz

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    I've given one of the disks a very good cleaning and I'm going to give it another go with decrypter. I do notice two very small 'scratches' toward the outer edge of the disk..which I assume has something to do with the disk being a pain to be burnt. These markings look as though someone has done them on purpose...I assume its regarding the coding.

    On another note..I posted another message in another forum but maybe someone in this thread can help. I have been having alot of trouble with playback problems caused by burning with nero 6. At exactly the half way point of playback the disk freezes and becomes unplayable. I havent had this problem when burning using decrypter or shrink, and dont seem to have this problem when using nero to burn cds. Any ideas on why this happens?
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @chadcruz - see my last reply. But to explain it better, skipping/freezing is due to a few things. Crappy media (we can prove some of this if you post the relevant section of your Nero log (minus serial number which usually begins with 1A21 or similar - edit this out). Log file is in c:\program files\ahead\nero\nerohistory.log or similar. You'll see that this log is appended to by each burn. grab the last part of log and edit. (especially if there are 100s of repetitive lines in there). Anyway, this can be caused by burning too fast, multitasking while burning, out of date firmware, DMA being off etc. All of this can be proved from your Nero log. Post it up and will have a look and try to get you sorted..
     
  14. chadcruz

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    Here is the log from the recent burn using nero:



    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.57 (1008), size=48128 bytes, created 22/12/1997 5:23:24 PM
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.68, size=160016 bytes, created 22/07/2004 5:33:44 PM
    Nero version: 6.3.1.19 (Nero Express)
    Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DRU-710A> Version: BYX3 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.19
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
    CD-ROM: <SONY DVD RW DRU-710A >Version: BYX3 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.19
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : ST380011A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DRU-710A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    SONY DVD RW DRU-710A D: CDRom0
    =======================

    AutoRun : 0
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 40894464 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 255MB (261668kB)
    Free physical memory: 57MB (59172kB)
    Memory in use : 77 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    11.4.2005
    UDF/ISO compilation
    7:32:47 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1865
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    7:32:48 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1865
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    7:32:48 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6065
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet :FALSE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    7:32:48 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1865
    DVD-Video files sorted

    7:32:48 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
    Reader running

    7:32:48 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
    Writer SONY DVD RW DRU-710A running

    7:32:48 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    7:32:48 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    7:32:48 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3173
    Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

    7:33:22 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 247
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 896015 (199:06.65, 1750MB)

    7:33:22 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    7:33:22 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2162
    Recorder: SONY DVD RW DRU-710A, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: TTG02 -
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    7:33:22 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 420
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================
    Insert empty disc to write to.
    (Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R9 Double Layer.)

    7:33:22 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 896016 (896016) = #896016/199:6.66
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 896016 blocks [SONY DVD RW DRU-710A ]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    7:33:22 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 984
    Prepare recorder [SONY DVD RW DRU-710A ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 1835040768, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
    896016 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

    7:33:22 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1865
    Caching of files started

    7:33:22 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4183
    Cache writing successful.

    7:33:22 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1865
    Caching of files completed

    7:33:22 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1865
    Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

    7:33:22 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2344
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    7:33:22 PM #21 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1723
    Set remaining time: 2:56,716 (176716ms) -> OK

    7:33:22 PM #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1932
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    7:33:22 PM #23 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20464
    Set BUFE: Power-Burn -> ON , Generic write control : ON

    7:33:22 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2073
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    7:33:22 PM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8128
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    7:33:22 PM #26 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 4817
    Drive: SONY DVD RW DRU-710A
    Book Type request: Physical disc type
    Changing the book type was finished with error code: 0

    7:34:03 PM #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1294
    19:34:03.660 - SONY DVD RW DRU-710A\H1 T0 : Queue again later

    7:37:44 PM #28 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
    <SONY DVD RW DRU-710A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 896016 (DAC10h), lenght 0 blocks

    7:37:44 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    7:37:44 PM #30 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2315
    EndDAO: Last written address was 896015

    7:38:02 PM #31 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1723
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    7:38:02 PM #32 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1723
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    7:38:02 PM #33 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1865
    Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s)
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @chadcruz -

    - that's not a good sign, you're dangerously close to 'swapping' ie running out of RAM and using Virtual Memory, ie hard disc churn, which'll be bad news for your burns. XP will use a lot of that 256MB, you need to shutdown background programs, disconnect internet, then virus checker etc during the burn to try to free up more memory. And look into upgrading to at least 512MB.

    i did a quick search on - http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.p...rder=Name&hits=25&search=Search+or+List+Media - this showed at least one 'brand' uses TTG02 - Bulkpaq. I've fallen foul of 100s of these before - FAKE discs. Just do a search for 'bulkpaq' and 'crappy' (select 'all these words in search') and you're welcome to view my comments on Bulkpaq!. You might be using another flavour of TTG02(ie may be better than the Bulkpaq) so let us know..

    Plus you're burning at 8x - not good, especially with what i've found above. Try burning at lower speed, say 4x, maybe lower. I do all of mine on a v fast system with 8x media, but i still only burn at 4x out of paranoia, though my setup/media is capable of 8x..

    Finally - see my comments (and other ppl's) on this thread - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/179903, there's some relevant stuff in there..
     
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    Hi thanks again for the info. I definately look into getting some more RAM for my system. Also the tips about disconnecting the internet was a good point.

    Onto the DVD R media...What do you mean exactly TTGO2? Is that a certain format? or a generic brand? The disks I have been using are branded as TDK DVD-R model number DVD-R47X50AC. I have heard of and seen bulkpack branded disks and am aware of their crappy quality, thats why I opted for these TDK disks...
     
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    edit - i forgot to mention a problem i have last night with my first 2 failed Verbatims (shock horror!) -


    I was copying a bootable Solaris DVD for work, last night, so i copied the original as a Nero img file under 4GB or something. This copied to hard disc perfectly. Next i used dvdinfopro (free trial) to run a CRC check on the disc i copied from (Mirror Platinum 4x or smiliar). This CRC check passed with flying colours.
    I thought this would be a good excuse to use my Verb's at their rated 8x for the first time. The first burn failed at writing the lead-in stage, well it took 8mins to be still writing the lead-in so i canned it. I used another Verbatim, again at 8x. This one worked 100% in the burn process. Next i used this Verbatim disc to rip another disc image FROM, now Nero complained near the beginning of rip with a couple of read errors. So i CRC checked it and as suspected - CRC errors near start of disc.
    Next i used another Verbatim 8x, but this time at my normal habit of 4x. CRC checked the disc - 100% fine. Used this disc to copy another image FROM. 100& successful. Wrote this image to another Verbatim at 4x again. CRC checked 100%.

    So even on this v good media on a fast up to date PC, my 8x media was error'ing out unless i used 4x. Now here i must add that i have burnt probably 300 movies on these 8x Verb's, at 4x only without one single burn error or playback error and have CRC checked a fair few 100% also.

    So even on this v good media on a fast up to date PC, my 8x media was error'ing out unless i used 4x. Now here i must add that i have burnt probably 300 movies on these 8x Verb's, [bold]at 4x only[/bold] without one single burn error or playback error and have CRC checked a fair few 100% also.


    @chadcruz, If i were you i would do some googling for tdk ttg02 (zero2) and search on these forums too. I've only ever used their CD's and i have read differing things about various types of TDK [bold]DVD[/bold] media..
     
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