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Errors when trying to rip most dvds

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by dan_DVD, Aug 12, 2005.

  1. dan_DVD

    dan_DVD Member

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    Hey can any one help me I've been trying to back up DVD Movies,

    I use DVD decrypter and always get these errors that I've copied and pasted below. I have only been able to back up about 3 DVDs out of 10 DVDs or so, and the ones I have been able to back up are ones that windows media can read with no troubles, the other DVDs that I’ve been unable to back up, windows media player struggles to read or won’t play them at all. Things I’ve done try and fix this, tried other software, updated firmware, tried any DVD and DVD 4 free,

    PC is
    P4 3.0 GHz
    512Ram, 80GB, FX5600 Graphics Card
    Burner DVD+RW Ricoh MP5240a (might be my burner??)

    I was trying to back up wrongfully accused it copied VTS 1 and 2 fine but when it got half way through VTS_01_3.VOB it started getting errors like the ones I’ve copy and pasted below and when it got to VTS_01_4.VOB it wouldn’t even copy just error after error

    I not only have this problem with wrongfully accused but most other DVD movies as well.

    Please help me out I fell like it might be my burner or my DVD just has mega troubles trying to read DVD movies


    W 21:11:52 Failed to read Sector 1572519 - Unknown (Positioning Error) (0x15, 0x82)
    W 21:12:02 Failed to read Sector 1572520 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 21:12:10 Failed to read Sector 1572521 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 21:12:23 Failed to read Sector 1572848 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 21:12:30 Failed to read Sector 1572849 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 21:12:35 Failed to read Sector 1572850 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 21:12:55 Failed to read Sector 1573312 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 21:13:08 Failed to read Sector 1573313 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 21:13:16 Failed to read Sector 1573314 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 21:13:27 Failed to read Sector 1573315 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 21:13:35 Failed to read Sector 1573316 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 21:13:50 Failed to read Sector 1573317 - Unknown (Positioning Error) (0x15, 0x80)
    Some of these to
    W 21:49:23 Failed to read Sector 1580882 - Focus Servo Error
    W 21:49:38 Failed to read Sector 1580883 - Focus Servo Error
     
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  2. hursty

    hursty Active member

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    maybe your burner is about on its last legs,or the disks are poor

    anydvd will break all protection

    are the disks dirty?...make sure they are clean,i was advised by rotary(addict),to use furniture polish to clean them,>?

    have you another drive you can try?,dvd-rom drive for instance?
     
  3. dan_DVD

    dan_DVD Member

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    Hey, some of the disks have some mirror scratches but nothing deep I've never tried to clean them with a product just a quick clean with a cloth before they go in to get rid of smudges and that, all the DVDs I want to back up play fine on my playstation 2, I don’t have another burner but I might go around to my sisters and bother in-laws house and try it out on their computer, Do you have any idea what the kind of errors I’m getting mean?
     
  4. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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  5. akyllonen

    akyllonen Regular member

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    I'm thinking it's probably the burner. Try ripping in file mode all the files up to VTS_01_3.VOB (skip that one) plus all the files after that one (including VTS_01_4.VOB). Then go back and rip the VTS_01_3.VOB (make sure you place it in the same folder as the other files. If you can get through the disc this way it most likely is your burner.
     
  6. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    that's one of my tricks for the odd disc that doesn't play ball - miss out the troublesome file, do the rest, try that file on a different reader or burner, persevere for a while, maybe try the more aggresive settings in dvd decrypter, try reading the troublesome file in original reader/burner again.

    however the original poster is saying it's quite a few discs doing this..
     
  7. dan_DVD

    dan_DVD Member

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    Yeah I have already tried ripping the .VOB files separate just did the same thing, I even tried using a different program just for the VTS_1_3.VOB files and VTS_1_4.VOB and still wouldn’t work, I hope it is the burner because I don’t like to give up and I fell like I've tried every thing. But im going to try my luck out at my In-laws and see if it is my bruner

     
  8. cage8224

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    I HAVE BEEN UP AGAINST THE SAME THING - I THINK THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING TO THE FAT TABLES AND THE ASSOCIATED FILES. I SAY THIS BECAUSE I EVEN TRIED TO JUST COPY THE FILE TO MY HARD DRIVE - NO CAN DO. (I ACTUALLY OWN THE DVD AND WAS MAKING A BACK UP FOR THE KIDS FOR VACATION) I HOPE SOMEONE COMES UP WITH A SOLUTION. - DESPERTLY WAITING
     
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    @ cage8224 - Please switch off your Caps Lock friend. All caps is very annoying. Thanks.
     
  10. dan_DVD

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    Glad to report back that all problems are with my RICOH MP5240a burner. It’s odd because it does still work but very, very picky. Went to the In-laws and tryed DVD Decrypter did its thing 100% in about 15minutes and copied about the same time I was please but annoyed that I've spent a so long trying wasting about 20 DVDR's.Thanks for your help and MR CAPS man try buying another burner so you can back up those dvd's for the kids

    We should have a burner rating list were people can comment on there burners and then you can pick what one you what to buy by looking at the top peoples choice burners or something like that just an idea might already be out there???
     
  11. hursty

    hursty Active member

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    there is a dvd drive forum here already,where you can get good advice :)
    btw
    you can never go wrong with a pioneer,if anyone is thinking of buying one,especially the new 110,for just £35.bargain
     
  12. katmandoo

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    Almost assuredly it's your burner. Some burners are better than others and some just get tired and can't read. My first burner was a Rosewill DL 16X burner. It was nice and burned just fine, but I started getting the same erros you have. I finally went out and bought an NEC3540 for $41 and the same discs I was having problems with are no problem now.

    Hursty...you like the Pioneer? Seems a bit finicky to me, IMO, when it comes to media.
     
  13. Caddyshk

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    I am very new to this, but my visit here was prompted by a situation identical to dan_DVD's -- My computer has two DVD drives (one ROM and one +/-RW)

    I am trying to work over a DVD which I own which was scratched when I bought it. (no returning it, I was on the road, didn't inspect it well enough!)

    Anyway, my DVD-ROM is a JLMS XJ-HD166 and the burner is a NEC ND-3450A. Neither was able to completely do the job, but the NEC did a lot better. So, clearly drives have different abilities to deal with such things.

    Wonder if I should try the furniture polish?

    What happens if I burn a DVD using the ISO that has read errors (DVD Decrypter did finish ripping and gave me its fanfare!).

    Here are my errors (fwiw)
    W 11:00:59 Failed to read Sector 1707872 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:01:28 Failed to read Sector 1707873 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:01:58 Failed to read Sector 1707874 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:02:27 Failed to read Sector 1707875 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:02:57 Failed to read Sector 1707876 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:03:26 Failed to read Sector 1707877 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:03:55 Failed to read Sector 1707878 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:04:25 Failed to read Sector 1707879 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:04:54 Failed to read Sector 1707880 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:05:23 Failed to read Sector 1707881 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:05:53 Failed to read Sector 1707882 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:06:23 Failed to read Sector 1707883 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:06:53 Failed to read Sector 1707884 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:07:25 Failed to read Sector 1707885 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:07:54 Failed to read Sector 1707886 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:08:23 Failed to read Sector 1707887 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:09:48 Failed to read Sector 1711888 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:10:20 Failed to read Sector 1711889 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:10:50 Failed to read Sector 1711890 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:11:20 Failed to read Sector 1711891 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:11:50 Failed to read Sector 1711892 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:12:23 Failed to read Sector 1711893 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:12:54 Failed to read Sector 1711894 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:13:24 Failed to read Sector 1711895 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:13:55 Failed to read Sector 1711896 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:14:23 Failed to read Sector 1711897 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:14:53 Failed to read Sector 1711898 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:15:22 Failed to read Sector 1711899 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:15:50 Failed to read Sector 1711900 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:16:21 Failed to read Sector 1711901 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:16:51 Failed to read Sector 1711902 - Unrecovered Read Error
    W 11:17:21 Failed to read Sector 1711903 - Unrecovered Read Error

    They appear to be contiguous in two areas.

    Well, I suppose I could put a little furniture polish on it and try again and then invest a few bucks in a coaster/mini-frisbee.
     
  14. akyllonen

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    caddy-I wouldn't be too worried, as lonk as there isn't a ton of errors. I've had a scratched up disc that gave me ~150 Unrecovered errors and the playback on the burnt copy was fine.(Didn't check the Special Features though) I'm assuming you might see a couple errors like pixelation, but I'm not an expert in this area. Also you might want to set your retries to zero next time you have a bad disc....it will save some wear and tear on your drive.

    dan-Glad to hear you got to the root cause. I have a Sony DRU710A (~$70 when on sale at Best Buy) no problems here with it and slightly under 500 burns so far...
     
  15. cage8224

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    HOW DO U SET THE RETRIES TO ZERO?
    ALSO, I AM USING A LITE-ON WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF THE BEST. IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, WERE U ABLE TO BACK UP THE MOVIE "HITCH" I OWN A COPY AND TRIED TO BACK IT UP FOR US TO USE ON OUR UP COMING VACATION.
    IF U DID I AM GOING TO GET THE SONY.

    FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH - WHEN I TRY TO COPY THE FILE TO MY HARD DRIVE I GET CRC ERRORS. THE DISK IS BRAND NEW - NO SCRATCHES ETC - BUT IT PLAYS FIND IN THE DVD PLAYER

    / CAGE
     
  16. creaky

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    @cage8224 - NO CAPS, it's too loud!, and against forum rules, pls edit your post to be lower case or whatever and the guys can help you, cheers.

    as to Hitch, there's an offical Hitch thread here - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/200764
     
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  17. Caddyshk

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    Hi akyllonen,

    I tried ripping a couple more times after polishing and so on and still got sector errors. Since I was getting the errors anyway, I just aborted the rips and decided to experiment with the one that made it to 100% (posted above).

    So, I put in the trusty ole DVD-R and cranked up DVD Decrypter (latest version) and let 'er burn (started to say "let 'er rip" but that would have a different meaning here, wouldn't it - lol).

    Anyway, I went on about my business with another computer and figured the odds were between slim and none. After a bit (surprisingly, not so long!), the marimba played its little ditty and I did some test playing. Chapter 6 of 7 was the one that wouldn't play on the original. Checked around here and there and then put chapter 6 on play and let it go. The whole thing played. What I saw was a few spots where there was a little (minor) jerkiness and a couple places where there was brief pixelation. I've seen worse on broadcast movies on a major network via cable!!

    Well, that's nice! I've never seen that chapter (scene) other than the first 50 seconds.

    Now, please keep in mind this is the first DVD I have ever ripped AND it is the first DVD I've ever burnt. I'm a computer professional (using the term loosely, I guess), but in the business sector where I work, burning DVDs is just not something lawyers do much!

    So, I take my first ripped and burnt DVD done from a defective DVD that I (like an idiot) bought. I take it to my Sony DVD player attached to my RCA TV. I plonk it in, turn on the TV, and I didn't even have to hit play! The damned thing played on my home DVD player!! OK, so I hit "Menu" and selected chapter 6 and hit play. Damn!!

    Well, am I excited or WHAT!!!

    Thanks to LIGHTNING.UK and to hell with the FCC and the rest of them. Thanks to whoever put me onto DVD Decrypter and thanks to you folks for explaining a bit about the sector read errors and for giving me the courage to spend a buck on a DVD blank.

    Thanks to Phillips for making a DVD-R blank that would play in my home DVD player. And thanks to the actors and actresses and producers of Chapter 6 which I finally got to watch without having to buy YaDVD.

    Yee-Haw!
     
  18. dan_DVD

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    I hate RICOH MP5240a for wasting my time....
    I’m going to replace it with another DVD drive and be the first to have a DVD player coaster! Thanks hope that wasn’t as lame as the Let It Rip joke, Hey it did make me laugh though and he was probably as stoked as me when he finally figured it out.

    Yall C yall all round noww
     
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