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EXPERTS! -please help a newbie with some ps2 modchip questions!

Discussion in 'PS2' started by dpratt, Apr 1, 2005.

  1. dpratt

    dpratt Member

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    i have never installed a soldered modchip before. my chip is the chipmod (found exclusively on modchip.ca), and although it is similar to the duo-modchip SE, the tech guy at modchip.ca assures me that it isnt a clone, but that it has similar build (both use the 17 wire configuration). i have a ps2 version 3 (which almost nobody posting on here seems to have). i am not sure if there are particular problems with the chipmod or with my version or a combination of the 2, but after installing several times i still can't get backups to play. my laser is working fine (cleaned it, boots originals quickly) and i am using good media (ritek G05's) at 2x speed burn. i always get the "red screen" message. i know it must be that the chip isnt installed well. any general tips? i have made sure that the wires are as short as possible and have resoldered all of the connections several times. it seems impossible to stop the wires from crossing, but i dont know if this is a problem anyway. i think i am doing something wrong with the soldering but i'm not sure, and it looks right from what i can tell. i have read a lot about people solving problems by cleaning the connections in various ways. i tried just rubbing on the connections with a q-tip but i dont know if that will help. what should i do to make sure that everything is clean and soldered well? i know that the connections are made and that there are no shorts, but i cant tell if the connections are "clean enough" to be proper connections, and there seems to be no way to tell. can i use some special material or solution to clean better? can you use alcohol on the board? i once read that if the solder connection sticks then the surface must have been clean enough, but after so many re-solders i am skeptical. i cleaned all of the wire tips themselves with solder (as recommended by pro solderers). i heard people talking about scraping at some of the small connections with a knife, but that sounds dangerous and i would think it would not be necessary. i know many people have not had so much trouble getting their chips to work (most people report trying 2 or 3 times until install done correctly). i would get someone else to do it but i dont know anyone who is a pro at it (they are all like me, did it once and somehow got it to work by luck). if anyone has any tips at all concerning the install in general, the cleaning, the chipmod or the v.3 ps2, please shoot me a reply. i have looked over the forums and found conflicting answers, so thats why i am asking about everything in this one big message. hopefully an expert can help me. thanks!
     
  2. biglog9

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    where did you get the install point from, are they correct and do you have good pictures of where they go.

    as for some advice

    get a soldering iron that will go as low as 15 watts (some people like lower, but i use a 15 watt)

    use contact cleaner before and after soldering,
    i personally like the the -contact cleaner pen- its got a little brush on the end.

    dont hold the iron onto the leg for more than a second or two.

    when finished soldering use a magnifying glass to make sure you did not bridge legs together.

    dont scrap with a knife.

    dont worry about wires crossing, unless the wires are bare.

    dont use alchohol, it leave a residue.

    just be careful and you should get it.
     
  3. dpratt

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    yeah i have proper pictures, and i am using a 15 watt iron. for some of the connections i had to hold the iron on for longer than a few second just to get the solder to melt properly. doing this has not ruined the system itself, but are you telling me that the connection wont be proper if i hold the iron to it for too long?
    i know there are no shorts for sure.
    one thing i did not do was use a 'contact cleaner' before or after soldering. what is a contact cleaner exactly? you mentioned a pen with a brush on it but i dont know what this is or where to get it.

    little help someone? i'm thinking this is a cleaning issue, and some people who couldnt get their chips to work end up saying that they eventually got them working by doing some cleaning method. i don't know anything about how to clean joints in electronics for the purpose of soldering. does anyone know how to do this really well?

     
  4. biglog9

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    yes some connections will take a little longer than a few seconds to solder.
    i just didnt want you to fry anything.

    as for contact cleaner
    this is a liquid that cleans cicuit boards.
    usually come in a spray type.
    the pen type, it looks like a large pen, but has got a little brush for cleaning.
    can get it at radio shack.

    what you want to do is spray or brush the place that you soldered.
    you dont have to wipe off the cleaner after use, it has a very fast flash time (evaporate time)

    the pen type works great because the brush can get in between the legs and take away anything that might be in there that you cant see. just dont press too hard.

    the spray is a small can. it work like spray paint. just point and spray.

    and dont worry about the board. it will look like it is getting very wet, contact cleaner is made for cleaning circuit board. it doesnt have any conductive materials in it.
     
  5. drkstar

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    you should leave the soldering to the pros. dont try doing it your self unless u have three or four ps2 on hand.
     

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