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Failed to write error

Discussion in 'DVD±R for advanced users' started by sume, Mar 21, 2007.

  1. sume

    sume Member

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    Hi everybody

    I've been burning dvds for some time, backing up movies, games etc.., lately my burner started giving me toasters, it gives an error while burning, I'll post the log below. The funny thing is I am using the same media (taiyo yuden) i've used upto now, and it seems to work when I burn 8x but then I'll have trouble reading those dvds. I can still burn cds with no trouble though. I have a benq DW1650 BCFC, I have the latest firmware, and I'm using an external burner. Any help is appreciated!

    thanks


    I 18:02:54 Source File Sectors: 2,294,304 (MODE1/2048)
    I 18:02:54 Source File Size: 4,698,734,592 bytes
    I 18:02:54 Source File Application Identifier: PLAYSTATION
    I 18:02:54 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD-ROM GENERATOR
    I 18:02:54 Destination Device: [0:0:0] BENQ DVD DD DW1650 BCFC (E:) (USB)
    I 18:02:54 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TYG02) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x)
    I 18:02:54 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496
    I 18:02:54 Write Mode: DVD
    I 18:02:54 Write Type: SAO
    I 18:02:54 Write Speed: 2x
    I 18:02:54 Link Size: Auto
    I 18:02:54 Test Mode: No
    I 18:02:54 BURN-Proof: Enabled
    I 18:02:54 Filling Buffer...
    I 18:03:38 Writing LeadIn...
    I 18:03:52 Writing Image...
    W 20:21:05 Failed to Write Sectors 1327456 - 1327487 - Write Error
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    E 20:31:07 Failed to Write Sectors 1327456 - 1327487 - Invalid Address For Write
    I 20:31:07 Synchronising Cache...
    E 20:31:07 Failed to Write Image!
    E 20:31:07 Operation Failed! - Duration: 02:28:12
    I 20:31:07 Average Write Rate: 300 KB/s (0.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 517 KB/s (0.4x)
    I 21:05:31 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
    I 21:05:31 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW!
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2007
  2. LOCOENG

    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    Why are you burning so slow? With that same combo I burn at 8X.

    Living on the edge as well...I would suggest reducing my target size to 4400 Mb.

     
  3. sume

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    I'm trying to burn a ps2 dvd, didn't want to screw around with the ISO to reduce the size.

    I used to burn at 4x with no problem upto now, I tried 2x to see if that worked. The media I'm using is 8x and I've heard it was a good idea to use 4x for it.
     
  4. LOCOENG

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    You are attempting to burn outside the limitations of the media...you would probably get better help in the PS section of the forums as well. I'm not sure that the structure is the same as video (probably not) and therefore could be giving you errors that I'm unfamiliar with.
     

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