I just had to post a thread THANKING everyone that help me on the success of backing up my first game espn 2k5. I am using flip top with swap magic 3.2 discs & alcohol 120% burnt backup at 2x speed. DVD-R office depot brand media with I/O magic dvd burner. I am very excited now and I think this forum help me tremendously. I have a v7 ps2 and if there are any questions I will be around reading some posted treads trying to help others and become an expert at backing up ps2 games. I know I only have one under my belt but hey its a start and I am excited. Again thanks to everyone!!!!