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Fluctuating Buffer Level.....on an SATA drive...

Discussion in 'Nero discussion' started by jestah57, Aug 14, 2007.

  1. jestah57

    jestah57 Regular member

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    I know there are multiple threads about this problem, but most I have read deal with IDE drives....

    I am using Nero 6, with a newly replaced LG GSA-H62N DVD Writer (as my old NEC decided to die on me)...the difference being that it is a SATA drive...hooked as my Secondary Master as my HDD is my primary master...

    and now when I burn DVD's the Buffer Level fluctuates between 98% to as low as 42%, and when burning at 4X, it seems to take 2X...

    I also have an IDE CD writer connected which never caused a conflict with my old IDE DVD writer...

    While I am happy I am reading and writing DVD's again, no sense having a fast writer if it takes this long...any thoughts?
     
  2. laddyboy

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    Use Device Manager and check to see that DMA mode is enabled for the burner. The ATA channels are located under IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers.

    Are you using good quality media? Have you tried burning at 8X? Do you have enough free space on your HDD? Is the HDD fragmented?

    Edit: added text below

    You might post your NeroHistory log for one of the burns. That might shed some light on problems. Omit your name and Nero serial number from the log section before posting.

    N6: Prog Files > Ahead > Nero > NeroHistory
    N7: Prog Files > Nero > Nero7> Core > NeroHistory
     
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  3. jestah57

    jestah57 Regular member

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    DMA is enabled...Im using Sony DVD-Rs...Ive never had a problem like this with my old drive (which was IDE)...Ill go over everything one more time, burn another DVD and post the log here....thanks!
     
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    jestah57 Regular member

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    Here is my latest Nero history log, if it is noted anywhere in it, I did burn 3 DVD's backto back (3 copies)....please let me know what you all find...thanks!




    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'I:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 6/17/2003 3:25:04 PM
    Nero version: 6.0.0.11 (Nero Express)
    Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H62N>Version: CL00 - HA 2 TA 2 - 6.0.0.11
    Adapter driver: <SiSRaid> HA 2
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
    Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
    CD-ROM: <LITE-ON LTR-52327S >Version: QS55 - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.0.0.11
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON LTR-52327S atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
    DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1600JB-00EVA0 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
    DiskPeripheral : ST3320620AS SiSRaid Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-H62N CL00 SiSRaid Port 2 ID 2 DMA: Off
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    CmdQueuing : 1
    CmdNotification: 2
    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    EraseSpeed : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 1022MB (1047276kB)
    Free physical memory: 531MB (544556kB)
    Memory in use : 48 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    13.8.2007
    DVD-Video
    10:04:12 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    10:04:13 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    10:04:13 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 5771
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet : TRUE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    10:04:13 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
    DVD-Video files sorted

    10:04:13 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
    Reader running

    10:04:13 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 127
    Writer HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H62N running

    10:04:13 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3854
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    10:04:13 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3854
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    10:04:13 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3173
    Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

    10:04:13 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 228
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45)
    Last address to be written: 2286175 (508:02.25)

    10:04:13 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 233
    Write in overburning mode: FALSE

    10:04:13 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1722
    Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H62N, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: SONY16 - D1
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    10:04:13 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 768
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2286176 (2286176) = #2286176/508:2.26
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286176 blocks [HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H62N ]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    10:04:13 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 937
    Prepare recorder [HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H62N ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 4682395648, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
    -150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    -150 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
    2286176 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

    10:04:13 PM #15 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
    Caching of files started

    10:04:13 PM #16 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
    Caching of files completed

    10:04:13 PM #17 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
    Burn process started at 4x (5,520 KB/s)

    10:04:13 PM #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2130
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    10:04:13 PM #19 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
    Set remaining time: 14:10,296 (850296ms) -> OK

    10:04:13 PM #20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1485
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    10:04:13 PM #21 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 18878
    Set BUFE: supported -> ON

    10:04:13 PM #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1600
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    10:04:13 PM #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7906
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Media Specific:
    60 00 10 20 30 40 50 00 - 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 00 `...0@P...!.....
    02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    10:04:21 PM #24 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 318
    22:04:21.828 - HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H62N : Queue again later (Intervall : 11msec)

    10:30:28 PM #25 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 113
    <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H62N > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286176 (22E260h), lenght 0 blocks

    10:30:28 PM #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 227
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    10:30:47 PM #27 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    10:30:47 PM #28 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    10:30:47 PM #29 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
    Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,520 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\SiSRaid.sys': Ver=5.1.1039.1050 built by: WinDDK, size=45568 bytes, created 12/9/2003 5:43:36 AM (Adapter driver for rec)
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 7:59:42 PM (Adapter driver for src)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
     
  6. laddyboy

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    Nero is reporting the DMA as off. Sometimes it gets it wrong especially when RAID controllers are involved, but this would explain the 2X effective burning speed. Make sure you're looking at the port where the burner is installed when you check the DMA. You might want to use Device Manager to uninstall the channel and then let the OS reinstall automatically upon restart.

    Your version of Nero is really out of date. I doubt it actually recognizes your burner. :) Also the Sony -R media you're burning is hard for some burners to deal with for whatever reason. You might try some Verbatim just to see if it makes a difference.

    Have you tried using ImgBurn (free) to burn your ISOs. I think it's a DMA or other communication channel problem but you could give ImgBurn a whirl. If that works, the likely culprit is an outdated Nero.


     
  7. jestah57

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    I have a copy of Nero7 Ultra that I could use, I just dont like how it works to back up my DVD's (if not, I just dont know how to use it right), think this would help?

    also let me explain my setup.

    My new LG DVDR drive is a SATA. my BIOS shows my other optical (CDR) as Primary IDE Slave. My main HDD is a SATA (which is read as my primary SATA, the DVDR shows up as secondary)...and my Secondary IDE Slave is my other HDD....should i reconfiguyre something there as well?...

    I do understand that DMA should be enabled for optimum burns, but the fact that its connected via SATA, perhaps what I saw was it checking the primary IDE while nothing is connected there....what do you think?

    thanks much for the help!
     
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    What's listed under IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers on your PC?

    The hardware on the IDE channels isn't conflicting.

    I doubt Nero is the problem although N7 is going to be better than the old copy of Nero Express you have. Just be sure to update to the latest version (7.10.1.0 I think) from Nero.com. I don't use Nero for burning myself, preferring ImgBurn.

    If the RAID controller is listed separately in Device Manager, click on it. That's what your burner seems to be connected to. It's probably listed under SCSI and RAID Controllers in Device Manager if you're using WinXP. We've seen problems in the past with burners connected to RAID controllers. There should also be a SiSRAID Utility program under Programs in the Start Menu which should allow you to see the current settings and change them.
     
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    Under my device manager for SCSI-RAID controllers, i right-click the entry and come to the SiS 180 Raid Controller...Then under the Property tab, there is Channel 0 which is my Hard Drive, and Channel 1 which is my DVD burner, under there there are these entries....

    UDMA Supported = 5 (UDMA 100)
    PIO Supported = 4
    DMA Supported = 2
    Device Current Used = UDMA mode 0
    Minor Version = ATA/ATAPI-7

    any thoughts now?
     
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    I'm not sure why this is set to mode 0. Sometimes, if the device supports it, the OS steps down the DMA mode one step at a time if communication errors occur. Usually though it ends up in PIO mode so I'm not sure what the deal is here. I would think it should be mode 2. Use the SisRAID Utility program and see if you can change the DMA mode to 2.

    Was there no Uninstall selection when you right clicked on Channel 1? If there is and you select that and restart the system that should reset the data transfer mode to the default setting. If that is mode 0, then I think you should try setting it to Mode 2 with the utility program.
     
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    Whoa, ok now you lost me. I am not able to right click on the Channel 1 option, its like it only shows me the settings, and doesnt let me change it.

    This SisRaid Utility you speak of, its on my motherboard CD?...cuz i dont have anything like that installed.

    Maybe i should just be resigned to the fact that im burning slower than I could be already.........
     
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    ...and very weird now, because after doing next to nothing about the problem, the buffer level stays at a consistent 95-98% when burning at 4x....guess problem solved...thanks to all!
     
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    Hi ;-)
    Glad you got it sorted jestah57.
    I have this drive & not burn @ 18x. Get exceptional quality too.Verbatim & TY 16x rated media used only.
    BTW My buffer even @ these speeds stays around 98 <> 100%.
    A scan of a disc done recently @ 18x.
    [​IMG]
     
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