Ok. I have the latest version of DVD Decrypter(18.104.22.168) and a Sony DRU-500A. I've done back-ups before using DVD Decryter but with these 2 games, when its reading the ISO from the disks, it gets to 41%/42% and gives me errors. Seems to be bad sector errors so i'm guessing(wondering) if there is some special protection on these games? I don't know what could be wrong. I keep good care of my games and the disks don't have any scratches on them that would prevent them from being read.