I have read all posts in regards to GOW2. Some have info that does not make sence to me or it just does not work. I am not trying to be redundent just hoping someone can answer my quaries in lamin terms. I have tried to back up GOW2 with DVDDecrypter, IMGBURNER, and NERO 7. Nither work. I have also tried the Toxic patcher which fails. In some of the threads I have read about the size of the ISO it says is 7.9 or smaller. My ISO file is 8,333,664kb. I also have installed it on my PS2 Harddrive with HDloader. I have changed the modes and game still does not play. I have a DMS4 Pro modchip. I would like to update it bcus I am unsure if this is the problem. Which toxic update is the newest one and will this atleast solve the "no play from HD issue"? I have also read about rebuilding the file. I am unsure what this involves. I am only interested in backing the entire game up not just half of it. Any help is appreciated.