I am 100% new to this, I understand only about 30% of what you guys talk about on the board. So, please bear with me on this. Also, if in your replies if you would tell me what the thing is and where I can find it that would be a huge help. Now, my question is this...I recently purchased the HD loader and Hard Drive bundle from consolesource.com. They shipped it and I got it, I installed it everything works fine. I installed Madden 2004....OK. I installed NCAA Football 2004....OK. Then I got NCAA Football 2005 and I wanted to back it up, and it says that it isn't a PS2 disc. WHAT!!!! I am looking at the official PS2 logo. Any help on what I need to do. I own about six games and only those two worked, and all the other ones said they were'nt PS2 discs either. So PLEASE help me and please remember keep terms in layman's terms. Thank you very much.