I've posted several times before, and the people who have tried to help, still haven't full understood my problem I get error code 5 when i boot. I need to know, is there anyway to find the HDkey to lock the hard drive WITHOUT the eeprom?? yeah, its on the hd, but i cant get to it...unless i could ftp to my box, which i cant, since it wont boot. programs on the computer can never find my xbox hd (like fatxplorer and such).....what do i do? will slayers boot disc let me boot to the disc before the xbox tries to boot the hard drive?