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Discussion in 'DVD Shrink forum' started by Troy1x, Dec 7, 2004.

  1. Troy1x

    Troy1x Guest

    Ok here goes...

    I use a DVD Shrink/Record Now combo. I usually but most of the time backup a DVD with no extras just the film. Well I have been having some reaccuring issues but they are random. I tend to get werid scrambles/stops during dvd playback between chapters 1 and 2 on a DVD and the rest of the movie is fine. But then I get perfect dvds too. I tired everything, I could think of so far. I defrag all partions, restarted computer before ripping and burns, and even updated firmware on all my drives. Software is all up to date SP2 XP Pro. When I used to use (DVDXCOPY Xpress) I hardley had any problems, sorry admin for mention that softwares name. If anyone can give me some help that would be great.

    Thanks,
    Troy1x
     
  2. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh my God, how dare you! :p Just kidding :)


    With random playback issues my first thought would be to look at the media and burn speed. What brand/type media have been using? Burn speed?

    Have you been watching your system resources as the burn progresses? Buffers staying full?


     
  3. Troy1x

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    Media is ProData 4x from Shop4tech.com
    Burner is a Plextor 708A burn speed at 4x

    depends buffers seem to go up and down but mostly stay full.

    -Troy1x
     
  4. ScubaPete

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    Hi Troy1x, welcome to aD,

    You'll need to check your media - as Neph said,

    As your discs are some "no name" discs, download this proggy and it will tell you what disc it is underneath -

    Here's DVD Identifier -

    http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

    Use DVD Identifier and should require extra help here's how to use MediaMatch by itself -

    MEDIAMATCH DIRECTIONS

    use "WorldLingo" and BableFish" to translate the German to English :)

    If you don't have those, all you have to know is -

    Down in the lower right-hand corner, under "Erweiterte Suche" you'll see "Offerer:" where you look for your disc's name and, under that "Hersteller:" which means Manufacturer. Select one OR the other to use.. To the right of those you'll see an arrow and the word, "Anzeigen" which means Next - Again, choose the disc's name OR the manufacturer and click "next". On the next page, you'll see a group of media, select which media you wish to check up on and click the arrow with the "search icon" on the right and that will supply you with a break-down of each disc, i.e.,Dye and Manufacturer, in the DataBase..

    After all of that, enough will be in English so that you won't have that much trouble -

    http://www.mediamatch.de/showdvdanbieter.php

    A good grade, Hi-quality media is needed for DVD reproduction ! RiData, Sony, TDK, "Branded" Ritek G04's or "Branded" Verbatim Data Life, Verbatim DataLife plus, Taiyo Yuden's and generally, almost any discs manufactured by Mitsubishi or RICOH are excellent bets. Among the better discs we're looking for, any media boasting "Advanced Metal AZO" - BUT it must say "METAL" AZO !, this indicates a superior dye and dye application on a good composite disc, while they are sometimes a bit "pricey" they are just the type of media we're looking for to do our DVD backups, Prices online from Meritline.com OR Newegg.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a $ .45 (USD) a disc –

    For DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win BUT the majority lose, they lose varying amounts true but, they still lose :-(

    If you need more help, come back and we'll do what we can to help you more -

    Pete

     
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  5. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Pete's advice about media is right on target. I'm a big believer that quality media is the foundation of a good and successful burning experience :)

    You mentioned that the buffers go up and down - do they ever empty?
     
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    Hey Neph, pick me, Oohhh, me, me, I know the answer (waving my hand in the air), Come on, (pounding on my desk now) call on me - it's a test question . . . .

    Me, ME - Aaauuuhhh, he won't give me a chance at all -

    (heading off to the corner of the room - pout, pout - -


     
  7. chargeit

    chargeit Guest

    i been using dvd shrink for about 3 weeks at first dvds were coming out perfect now it wants to take 2000 or more hours to complete need some help out there
     
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    There are some things we should check as they have a direct influence over how our drive behaves -

    1. Let's check for up-to-date Firmware for your burner.

    "OK, so what is this "Firmware" garbage?" Fair question. Firmware is a "tutor" who's job it is to "introduce" all the different kinds of media to your burner and to tell your burner a little bit about it. What type of media it is and at what speed to burn it. As new media is introduced OR, as the Mfgrs of your burner find new ways to use it, new Firmware updates OR "Flash upgrades" come out to "school" your burner, keeping it up-to-date.

    At the bottom of the page look for "What's my firmware? - Try this little tool I found," Download this tool and check out your Firmware's health (up-to-date wise). You can probably get a current upgrade there also –

    http://flashman.rpc-1.com/

    Firmware page -

    http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_all.php

    Always check your burner's Mfgr's "Support" section to see if some newer Firmware is there -

    Firmware, You can't afford to be without it -



    Now we need to see if we have a working ASPI Layer.

    "Yea right, and ASPI stands for Another Stupid Piece of Insanity, right ?" No, not quite, it stands for "Advanced SCSI Programming Interface". "Well that tells me nothing, what's it do ?" That's a much easier question to answer. It is kind of a "translator" allowing your software to talk your hardware in a manner that your hardware will understand. Let's imagine an Earthman trying to talk to a rock. Now, think of a sledgehammer as being the interface. With the interface in play, the Earthman can tell the rock to disperse into gravel no matter what planet the rock is from, OK ? Good, let's see if we have a sledgehammer –

    2. Check for your ASPI Layer. If one isn't present, we'll need to get one and reinstall it, then reboot our PC to allow it to "settle in".

    ASPI Checker -
    http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/su...oduct/EZ-SCSI_5.0&filekey=aspichk.exe&sess=no

    Force 1.8 ASPI Layer -

    http://forceaspi18.w.interia.pl/

    If you've found you need an ASPI layer OR would like some additional information about it - here you go –
    http://cd-rw.org/articles/archive/aspisetup.cfm

    Finally, we need to check your DMA. "Ooohh, no you're not ! Only my husband or my Doctor checks my "D", "M" . . whatever . . ." No, no, it's OK, DMA stands for "Direct Memory Access" transfer mode OR as we say in the computer field, it's a really, fast way to move stuff. Many PC's today are using UDMA or "Ultra Direct Memory Access transfer mode, or as we like to call it, a really super-duper fast way to move stuff as opposed to the PIO mode. The PIO or Programmed I/O mode, is a technique whereby the system CPU and support hardware directly control the transfer of data between the system and the hard disk since shortly after the beginning of PC's up until the mid-1990's. So we want DMA (fast) more than we PIO (slow).

    3. Let's check your Drive's transfer mode. It should be DMA-4, not PIO.
    Windows XP downgrades the Ultra DMA transfer mode after receiving six CRC errors and drops it down to the much slower PIO mode.

    To enable DMA mode using the Device Manager
    1. Open Device Manager
    2. Double-click IDE ATA//ATAPI Controllers to display the list of controllers and channels.
    3. Right-click the icon for the channel to which your burner is connected and select Properties. Now click the Advanced Settings tab.
    4. In the Current Transfer Mode drop-down box, select DMA if available if the current setting says, "PIO Only."
    If the drop-down box already says, "DMA if Available" but the current transfer mode is PIO, then the user must "toggle" the settings. That is, change the selection from "DMA if available" to PIO only, and click "OK".
    Then repeat the steps above to change the selection to "DMA if available".

    OPTION: Right-click the burner and select "Uninstall" and then "OK" all prompts until the PC reboots. Upon rebooting, the PC should "find" your burner and reinstall it setting it by "Default" to DMA.

    Lastly, when did you last defrag your Hard Drive (HD) ? If you have to stop and think about the last time you did it, then it's way, way overdue. Here we go, (Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter. When it opens, choose your HD, analyses it to see where we stand then if you need it (you probably will) choose Defragment.).

    After you finish doing it now you might want to think about having "Scheduled Tasks" in your Control Panel do it for you on a daily basis.

    A fragmented HD not only drastically slows down your system but it can cause all number of things to happen inside your PC, a messed up burn being one of them.

    Cheers,

    Pete

    Now let's see if everything will work together the way we want it to, OK ?

    Give it a test run and let us know how you make out -

     

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