Ok, I have been doing research and can't figure where I am going wrong. If somone can help me it would be greatly appreciated. The equipment that I have PS2 v4; PNP key vr no soder mod chip http://www.mod-chip.com/pnpv4.htm, Brand new Dell computer with a dvd r/rw writter Philips dvd +-rw dvd. I also use dvd shrink, dvd decrypter and alcohol 120%. I used the instruction and installed the chip properly. I am also follwing the instruction on how to use the swap disc: http://www.mod-chip.com/swapmagicdirections.htm. I hold the eject button and when it turns orange I let it go, and nothing happens. I have to hold it for about 20- 25 seconds and then it ejects. Then I put in one of the games that I copied and push the x button and nothing happens. I have used +R and -R Memorex, Phillips, Fuji Film and Maxell. I also have used diferent games and nothing works. What am I doing wrong? Can somone help me please? Thank you for your time.