Hey guys I'm having a dickens of a time getting Brute force to system link on two softmod/HDD upgraded XB's First off I CAN system link all of my other games on these same two Xboxes(I use crossover cable to directly connect both and I haven't experienced problems with any other games) I have the game installed on both boxes (from the same disc) But when I go to the link screen on my first XB it says "no games were found" even tho' Im hostin on the other XB? Its obviously finding the link itself, because otherwise I'd get the "No link found plese check network cable" screen. so it finds the link but not the hosted game? someone here thought patching the .XBE could fix this so i tried this(with quix) I patched them both (well really patched it once and copied it to both XB's) Is this right? anyway it still wont work. Thnx in addvance guys EDIT: sorry but I forgot ot mention, when I patched the .XBE it spit out a patched .XBE and a .BAK file what is the .BAK? I didn't copy it to the xbox with the patched .XBE, Should I have? Thnx again!