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Home stereo reciever

Discussion in 'High resolution audio' started by sp7ke, Apr 5, 2007.

  1. sp7ke

    sp7ke Guest

    i just bought a toshiba A2 HD DVD player, to get good audio i need a stereo reciever that is True HD and Dolby digital plus compatible for the HD sound, can anyone here recommend a overall good stereo reciever that would work
     
  2. jjolson

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    I guess what you need is a reciever (I would go for 5.1/7.1 instead of stereo) which can take uncompressed PCM over HDMI 1.1 (or higher, but neither 1.2 nor 1.3 would make any difference here).
     
  3. wilkes

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    http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/assets/documents/AP200602-AAzur640RUsersManual-English.pdf
    will get you to the manual for a seriously good amplifier.
    HDMI capable (3 inputs) so you can use this as a video router as well.
    7.1 analogue in (So far, all players that are Dolby True HD compatible will decode this in the player at the very least, to the analogue outs)
    I do not - yet - know of an AV amplifier that will take the Dolby True HD in from HDMI and decode internally. There doubtless is one.
    Dolby True HD is exactly the same as MLP Lossless.
    DD, DD-EX, DTS, DTS 96/24, DTS-ES & Neo DTS are all catared for, as are all flavours of DPL II.

    Looking at the detailed specs for your player, Dolby True HD is output via HDMI in PCM mode - the player decodes this, so you need an amp that has HDMI Audio in, or 7.1 Analogue/5.1 analogue in.
    This CA 640R will do the job - flawlessly.
     
  4. diabolos

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  5. diabolos

    diabolos Guest

    Wow I just heard about another receiver from onkyo that is causing quite a stir across the net. The Onkyo TX-SR605 7.1 channel receiver supports HDMI 1.3 and has Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HDMA decoding inside all for $500 bucks.


    Specs...

    TX-SR605 MSRP $499 Shipping mid May
    *Full A/V Processing via HDMI 1.3a with Upconversion (2 in 1 out)
    *HDMI Deep Color Capable (36bit)
    *Component Video Upconversion and HDTV-Capable (50 MHZ) Video Switching (3 in 1 out)
    *WRAT/ Optimum Gain Volume Circuitry/ Non-Scaling Configuration/ A-Form Listening Mode Memory/ RI
    *Faroudja DCDi
    *Audyssey 2EQ Room Acoustics Correction
    *7.1 Multichannel Inputs for PCM Delivery of Hi-Def Audio Sources
    *DOLBY Decoder - PLIIx, DD, DD-EX, TrueHD
    *DTS Decoder - DTS, ES, NEO6, 96/24, HD Master Audio
    *S-Video (5 in 2 out)
    *Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX) 3/3
    *Composite Video (5 in/2 out)
    *Power 90W/Ch
    *Powered Zone 2 and Zone 2 Line-Out
    *Bi-Amp Capable
    *XM and Sirius ports
    *XM HD Surround Sound through Neural Surround

    Ced
     
  6. wilkes

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    It's too cheap to be true.
    What are the DAC?
    What is the S/N ratio?
    What is the power output? (The CA has 100 Watts RMS per channel)
    I would have to hear it, as at that money, corners are being cut somewhere along the line.....
     
  7. jjolson

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    It's even more fishy since the preorder/street price is $100 lower...

    Quick Summary
    Borrowed from Avsforum: info on the new Onkyo line-up

    TX-SR505 MSRP $299 OUT Week of APR 16-20
    http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m...&class=Receiver
    *HDMI 1.3 Video Pass Through (2 in 1 out)
    *HDMI Deep Color Capable (36bit)
    *Component Video HDTV-Capable (50 MHZ) Video Switching (3 in 1 out)
    *WRAT/ Optimum Gain Volume Circuitry/ Non-Scaling Configuration/ A-Form Listening Mode Memory/ RI
    *Audyssey 2EQ Room Acoustics Correction
    *7.1 Multichannel Inputs for PCM Delivery of Hi-Def Audio Sources
    *DOLBY Decoder - PLIIx, DD, DD-EX
    *DTS Decoder - DTS, ES, NEO6, 96/24
    *S-Video (3 in 1 out)
    *Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX) 2/2
    *Composite (4 in 1 out)
    *Power 75W/Ch

    TX-SR575 MSRP $399 Out NOW!
    http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m...&class=Receiver
    *HDMI 1.3 Video Pass Through (2 in 1 out)
    *HDMI Deep Color Capable (36bit)
    *Component Video Upconversion and HDTV-Capable (50 MHZ) Video Switching (3 in 1 out)
    *WRAT/ Optimum Gain Volume Circuitry/ Non-Scaling Configuration/ A-Form Listening Mode Memory/ RI
    *Audyssey 2EQ Room Acoustics Correction With Microphone
    *7.1 Multichannel Inputs for PCM Delivery of Hi-Def Audio Sources
    *DOLBY Decoder - PLIIx, DD, DD-EX
    *DTS Decoder - DTS, ES, NEO6, 96/24
    *S-Video (3 in 1 out)
    *Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX) 2/2
    *Composite (4 in 1 out)
    *Power 80W/Ch
    *XM and Sirius ports

    TX-SR605 MSRP $499 Shipping mid May
    *Full A/V Processing via HDMI 1.3a with Upconversion (2 in 1 out)
    *HDMI Deep Color Capable (36bit)
    *Component Video Upconversion and HDTV-Capable (50 MHZ) Video Switching (3 in 1 out)
    *WRAT/ Optimum Gain Volume Circuitry/ Non-Scaling Configuration/ A-Form Listening Mode Memory/ RI
    *Faroudja DCDi
    *Audyssey 2EQ Room Acoustics Correction
    *7.1 Multichannel Inputs for PCM Delivery of Hi-Def Audio Sources
    *DOLBY Decoder - PLIIx, DD, DD-EX, TrueHD
    *DTS Decoder - DTS, ES, NEO6, 96/24, HD Master Audio
    *S-Video (5 in 2 out)
    *Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX) 3/3
    *Composite Video (5 in/2 out)
    *Power 90W/Ch
    *Powered Zone 2 and Zone 2 Line-Out
    *Bi-Amp Capable
    *XM and Sirius ports
    *XM HD Surround Sound through Neural Surround

    TX-SR705 MSRP $799 Est Shipping date mid to late June
    *Full A/V Processing via HDMI 1.3a with Upconversion (3 in 1 out)
    *HDMI Deep Color Capable (36bit)
    *Component Video Upconversion and HDTV-Capable (50 MHZ) Video Switching (3 in 1 out)
    *WRAT/ Optimum Gain Volume Circuitry/ Non-Scaling Configuration/ A-Form Listening Mode Memory/ RI
    *Faroudja DCDi
    *Audyssey MultEQ XT Room Acoustics Correction
    *7.1 Multichannel Inputs for PCM Delivery of Hi-Def Audio Sources
    *DOLBY Decoder - PLIIx, DD, DD-EX, TrueHD
    *DTS Decoder - DTS, ES, NEO6, 96/24, HD Master Audio
    *THX Select2 Certified
    *S-Video (5 in 2 out)
    *Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX) 3/3
    *Composite (5 in 2 out)
    *Power ??0W/Ch
    *Powered Zone 2 and Zone 2 Line-Out
    *Bi-Amp Capable

    TX-SR805 MSRP $999 Est Shipping date mid to late June
    *Full A/V Processing via HDMI 1.3a with Upconversion (3 in 1 out)
    *HDMI Deep Color Capable (36bit)
    *Component Video Upconversion and HDTV-Capable (100 MHZ) Video Switching (3 in 1 out)
    *WRAT/ Optimum Gain Volume Circuitry/ Non-Scaling Configuration/ A-Form Listening Mode Memory/ RI
    *Faroudja DCDi
    *Audyssey MultEQ XT Room Acoustics Correction
    *7.1 Multichannel Inputs for PCM Delivery of Hi-Def Audio Sources
    *DOLBY Decoder - PLIIx, DD, DD-EX, TrueHD
    *DTS Decoder - DTS, ES, NEO6, 96/24, HD Master Audio
    *THX Ultra2 Certified
    *Burr-Brown 192/24-bit DAC on all Channels (TI Architecture (PCM1796))
    *S-Video (6 in 1 out)
    *Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX) 3/3; OUT (OPT) 1
    *Composite (6 in 1 out)
    *Power 130W/Ch
    *Powered Zone 2 with Balance Volume and tone control
    *Powered Zone 3
    *Bi-Amp Capable

    TX-SR875 MSRP $1599 Est Shipping date mid to late July
    *Full A/V Processing via HDMI 1.3a with Upconversion (4 in 1 out)
    *HDMI Deep Color Capable (36bit)
    *Component Video Upconversion and HDTV-Capable (100 MHZ) Video Switching (? in 1 out)
    *WRAT/ Optimum Gain Volume Circuitry/ Non-Scaling Configuration/ A-Form Listening Mode Memory/ RI
    *HQV Reon-VX Video Processing and NSV Precision Video
    *Audyssey MultEQ XT Room Acoustics Correction
    *7.1 Multichannel Inputs for PCM Delivery of Hi-Def Audio Sources
    *DOLBY Decoder - PLIIx, DD, DD-EX, TrueHD
    *DTS Decoder - DTS, ES, NEO6, 96/24, HD Master Audio
    *THX Ultra2 Certified
    *S-Video (? in 1 out)
    *Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX) ?/?
    *Composite (? in 1 out)
    *Burr-Brown 192/24-bit DAC on all Channels (TI Architecture (PCM1796))
    *Power ??0W/Ch
    *Powered Zone 2 with Video Balance Volume and tone control
    *Powered Zone 3
    *Bi-Amp & BTL Capable
    *Dual Push-Pull Amp with 3 stage inverted

    TX-NR905 MSRP $1999 Est Shipping date mid to late August
    *Full A/V Processing via HDMI 1.3a with Upconversion (4 in 2 out)
    *HDMI Deep Color Capable (36bit)
    *Component Video Upconversion and HDTV-Capable (100 MHZ) Video Switching (? in 1 out)
    *WRAT/ Optimum Gain Volume Circuitry/ Non-Scaling Configuration/ A-Form Listening Mode Memory/ RI
    *HQV Reon-VX Video Processing and NSV Precision Video
    *Audyssey MultEQ XT Room Acoustics Correction
    *7.1 Multichannel Inputs for PCM Delivery of Hi-Def Audio Sources
    *DOLBY Decoder - PLIIx, DD, DD-EX, TrueHD
    *DTS Decoder - DTS, ES, NEO6, 96/24, HD Master Audio
    *THX Ultra2 Certified
    *S-Video (? in 1 out)
    *Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX) ?/?
    *Composite (? in 1 out)
    *Burr-Brown 192/24-bit DAC on all Channels (TI Architecture (PCM1796))
    *Power ??0W/Ch
    *Powered Zone 2 with Video Balance Volume and tone control
    *Powered Zone 3
    *Bi-Amp & BTL Capable
    *Dual Push-Pull Amp with 3 stage inverted
    *Toroidal Transformer and Seperate Transformers for processing.
    *Networking Capabilities via Onkyo's e-Control System for Internet Radio and WMA
     
  8. diabolos

    diabolos Guest

    To finish off this thread I will say this...

    HDMI 1.3 isn't needed for high res audio. HDMI 1.0 could handle up to 8 channels of uncompressed audio. HDMI 1.2 can handle DSD for SACD and MLP for DVD-Audio.

    The other thing is that all content mastered in "Advanced Mode" (meaning that there are interactive features) must be transcoded to PCM no matter what for both HD DVD and Blu-Ray. That constitutes all professional HD DVD titles and upcoming Blu-Ray titles. All players are required to be able to re-encode their supported audio formats into PCM/M-PCM. Setting the player to output TrueHD or DTS-HDMA would require yet another decode to PCM/M-PCM at the receiver anyway. For quality sake if you hookup your next gen player and audio receiver with HDMI set the player to output PCM/M-PCM, you will be doing yourself a favor.

    The days of bit-stream are over!

    Ced
     

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