okay, i think i found a terrific way to pull off the memory card exploit without the need of a fliptop/slide card, mod chip or swap disc. all you need is the hdloader cd and some software. the basic principle is this: we need to get an unmodded ps2 to recognize a burned exploit cd without the need of a swap disc or slide card. so we use cdgenps2 to make an image of the exploit cd and then instead of burning it, we put the ps2 hdd in the computer as a slave and use winhiip to copy that exploit image onto the hdd. now put that hdd back into the ps2 and use the hdloader cd to access the ps2 hdd and run the exploit image. the ps2 should be fooled into thinking you put the exploit cd in and install the exploit to the mem card. so there it is, it seems so elegantly simple, yet i havn't seen any tutorial or guide for this method. all i have are an unmodded ps2 and hdloader, and i should conceivably be able to make this work. and here is the catch... i cant make it work. but not to fear because i'm a noob and this is my first post at afterdawn. so surely someone else will see this and say "hey, that's a good idea" and find a way to make it work. any help would be great, if someone can figure out where i'm going wrong i'd be happy to put together a very detailed noob guide to doing it this way.