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how to leave out the dvd's extras

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by animedrag, Aug 22, 2004.

  1. animedrag

    animedrag Member

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    sup guys. i tried to use dvd shrink 3.2 and re-author a dvd so that i only get the main movie. however, it gives me a warning that if i re-author it, i would loose the menu functionality. what program is there that would allows me to copy the main movie of a dvd and still have the menu functioning?

    the reason i'm asking this is because i got a 7.50 GB that i'm trying to backup. dvd shrink 3.2 give me a 50% compression ratio if i copy the full disc. after i ripped it to the HD, the dvd's picture quality is low. the only thing that matters to me is the main movie. i'm trying to keep the main movie at the highest possible quality.

    also, is it possible to convert a dvd from 4:3 aspect ratio to 16:9 widescreen? would that give me some more space on the dvd+r?
     
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  2. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi,

    Shrink 3.2 will allow you to remove extras and keep the menus. To do this try the following:

    Select Full Disc then highlight the extras folder on the left.

    Under the Compression tab where it normally says Automatic choose Still Image. Now all the extras will be replaced with a still image and the menus will remain intact :)
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  3. michigan

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    Yes Neph is correct

    But, if you only want the main movie (which is what you said) then don't worry about the menus, you don't need them. When you insert the disc in your player it will automaticly play and you will still have the chapters so you can skip ahead and back you just won't have the actual menus. If you do just the movie without the extras you should have plenty of room on the disc with good quality. (I back up this movie with the movie only and it worked fine). This is how I do it all the time.

    No you can't convert a 4:3 to a 16:9 with Shrink.
     
  4. oneacer

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    animedrag,

    Before you rip with Shrink, you have the option of selecting “Full Disk” or selecting “Re-author“. Most of the time before I rip with Shrink, I select re-author and then double-click on the Main Movie (usually Title 1). This moves over only the main movie to the left to be ripped. I don't even bother with the menus, as you can still select chapters with your player.
     
  5. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi,

    The menus are still nice so you can select chapters :)
     
  6. michigan

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    You are right Neph, I just don't usually select chapters. I put in the movie and watch it. Once in a while I do want a certain scene and I jst look on the box to see what chapter it is.
     
  7. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    And you are also right, sir.

    Down to personal preference I imagine :)
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  8. animedrag

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    also, is it possible to convert a dvd from 4:3 aspect ratio to 16:9 widescreen? would that give me some more space on the dvd+r? :)
     
  9. brian100

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    animedrag

    I really can't see much point in converting 4:3 aspect ratio to 16:9. I simply just use the stretch function on my TV set to achieve these results. Yeah I know it looks naff..but I get used to it after a while.

    If you are looking to convert 4:3 (letterboxed widescreen) to 16:9 anamorphic it can be done, relatively easily, with DVD rebuilder/CCE basic. DVD rebuilder is free but CCE basic costs ..about $50 (£30). There are a number of threads on this forum dedicated to Rebuilder/CCE. If you wwish to be brave..do some reading...take a look at Vurbal's guide (on this forum)...and buy a good bottle of wine.



     
  10. animedrag

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    the reason i ask about changing the aspect ratio is that i have 3 sets of dvds from the same production company. they are all music videos. all 3 has different stuff on it. the 2 burnt ones are widescreen and have good picture quality. while the other dvd, an original one, is fullscreen. i used dvdshrink to rip the original dvd to the HD but it results in poor quality. now, i don't know the guy who did the burn, so i think that he might have changed the ratio to get a higher compression ratio. i don't know if that will actually help or not.
     
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    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Unfortunately you can't make something out of what isn't there meaning the video quality of the copy will be no better than the source.
     
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    when you say "the source," do you mean the original dvd or the ripped copy of the dvd. because the original dvd has good picture quality, being the original and all.
     
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    Either or. The same theory applies :)
     
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    no man, there is a difference. if i rip the original dvd, then the ripped version would have poor quality. that is not because the original dvd has poor quality, but because of the compression to fit it on the dvd+r or dvd-r.
     
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    You can manually select No Compression from Shrink's Compression Settings tab (make sure you have the whole DVD selected on the left side). When you click the backup button you'll get a warning that it's too big for a blank, but if you just click the OK button it will still let you rip it that way. I do this all the time because I use DVD-RB to compress.
     
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    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    You're misunderstanding me. I said the quality of a copy can be no better than the source, I didn't say it couldn't be worse.
     
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    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    As vurbal suggested you may want to rip the fullscreen disc with DVD Decrypter then look into a high quality encoder such as CCE/DVD Rebuilder.
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    verbul, what is DVD-RB?
     
  19. vurbal

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    It's short for DVD Rebuilder, which is a piece of donationware (ie freeware) for automating backups using Cinema Craft Encoder. Using CCE requires spending either $58 for CCE Basic (which I use) or about $2000 for CCE SP, which is obviously ridiculous just for DVD backups. IMO compressing with CCE will give you results ranging from far superior to programs like DVD Shrink at high compression levels to slightly better than those programs at lower compression levels. Some people will disagree with that, particularly with low compression, but I don't get into those arguments as my opinion is based on my own perception and experience, and to the best of my knowledge I've never loaned my eyes out to anyone.

    Since CCE completely re-encodes the video (vs altering the existing files like Shrink does), it does take longer to compress, although if you have a 2 or more decent PCs (networked together) to encode with simultaneously you can speed things up significantly. I also like the fact that I can change the resolution of the extras on a DVD, and therefore significantly reduce the bits used on them, which allows you to use less compression on the movie.
     

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