To Dawners. I recently post a report about SONIC media from shop4tech, I have burned this media with my Pioneer DVR108 (and always set at speed 8X), after burned I played some of them to make sure it's a good burn. And this media seem working fine for me, I did not pay attention on the FAKE TYG02 that people post in several diferent forums. Yesterday I gave my friend one disc so he can check-out before make a purchase, after he make a burned he called and tell me that "there are many block when play back" I came to his house today and did another burn, because I want to see with my real eye, and YES, the burn went well, we even make sure to burn at 2X speed, but when play back there are many block/freeze, we did the same burn with differce media, and the disc played OK. So it must be the Sonic media. More info, My friend has an old model of Pioneer DVR 105 (not 108 like me). I feel like I am an a** hole when I re-read my posts on: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/132744 and http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/133431 I do not want to post the false information, I just post what going on. So if you have a old model burner careful when use the Sonic brand. But for me I am still using this media because: - the price. - it's work fine on my burner. - My Sonic back-up will be degrade, maybe yes, but by the time it's degrade it will be no longer CD nor DVD everything will be on Flash-mem.