Ok, I'm trying to burn anything! This means that all my attempts are failures. I am a failure. Where is the nearest cliff? No I'm not going on a Summer Holiday. I originally posted a thread trying to find out why my "burn" button wouldn't highlight and then went and installed "force ASPI" as directed by some helpers on this site. That didn't help. When I used DVD Shrink and tried to directly burn to DVD, all burns failed with some message showing up with the letters "Win aspi " in it. I want to start all over again as this is going on and on. I had been emailing Nero support but they are not helping me to find the problem. I will remove the wole Nero with Nero Clean up tool. I originally started with the Nero 63117 demo but removed that when the support guy said to. Then I downloaded Nero 63120 but it wouldn't load due to some CRC error on loading so I got an OEM version of Nero express 6 but the burn button doesn't light unless burning data. Do I clean up the whole lot or keep the OEM version and just put on the updates? Do I remove the whole lot and try to reinstall Nero 63120 and the updates? Do I leave out update 3 called IN CD because it causes problems? So, in summary ,before I jump,do I install Nero 63120 and updates 2 and 4 (I assume update 1 IS actually Nero 63120) and do I remove OEM version or jsut update it? All I want is "nero burning rom" so I can follow Scuba Pete's bible and say "who's you Daddy". I don't care about food or money or even sex at this stage.