I am trying in vain to use these two programs to backup some dvds and I am having zero success. I have read ScubaPetes guide and still can't get things to work. I get an error when trying to encode with DVD Shrink so I am trying to use dvd decrypt to get the info to my harddrive, then use shrink to compress it then use nero to burn it as a final step. Can anyone give me exact instructions on how this needs to be done??